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You do realize if there was no government everything would be taken over by private enterprise, right? I'm not going to go as far as to say the government is our friend, but at least they are accountable to the general public on a certain level. Private enterprises aren't always bad, but their prime motivation is profit. Without a government the more unsavory corporations would be free to exploit people in any way they want. Comcast could charge you $200 a week for your Internet connection and you'd just have to pony it up or live like it's 1985.
The police would all be privatized so you'd either have amateur security guards going around and killing people on a regular basis or you would simply have mob rule and people suspected of crimes would be killed in gruesome ways by their neighbors without any trial. I'm not a huge fan of cops myself but I respect them because I know that if the average citizen was dishing out justice they would be far less forgiving and more likely to hurt innocent people.
Piracy and human trafficking would explode in prevalence due to the lack of law enforcement and child labor would become the norm since there would no longer be public schools. It would be like the old days when only rich kids were able to have an education while the rest worked in fields and factories. And all the gun nuts in right wing states would finally be able to go out and become the warlords they have fantasized about being for so long.
Oh yeah and if you're an atheist and support anarchy or libertarianism, you are inadvertently supporting religion too, since aside from private enterprise and government the most powerful organizations are religious ones. Without a welfare system poor people would be forced to rely on religious charity (and theft), and the middle class would live in gated communities ala South Africa to get away from the desperate indigent who will steal from them if it means their kids don't starve. If you think panhandlers are annoying now try dealing with 20 times more of them.
It would be the end of civil rights since nobody could enforce anti-discrimination laws and the wealth gap between the majority and the minority would only grow due to the nature of capitalism. Eventually this would lead to a race/class war as people became more and more desperate. If you think Ferguson is bad...
When you use Libertarianism and Anarchy as if they are similar you lose ALL credibility.
You do realize if there was no government everything would be taken over by private enterprise, right? I'm not going to go as far as to say the government is our friend, but at least they are accountable to the general public on a certain level. Private enterprises aren't always bad, but their prime motivation is profit. Without a government the more unsavory corporations would be free to exploit people in any way they want. Comcast could charge you $200 a week for your Internet connection and you'd just have to pony it up or live like it's 1985.
The police would all be privatized so you'd either have amateur security guards going around and killing people on a regular basis or you would simply have mob rule and people suspected of crimes would be killed in gruesome ways by their neighbors without any trial. I'm not a huge fan of cops myself but I respect them because I know that if the average citizen was dishing out justice they would be far less forgiving and more likely to hurt innocent people.
Piracy and human trafficking would explode in prevalence due to the lack of law enforcement and child labor would become the norm since there would no longer be public schools. It would be like the old days when only rich kids were able to have an education while the rest worked in fields and factories. And all the gun nuts in right wing states would finally be able to go out and become the warlords they have fantasized about being for so long.
Oh yeah and if you're an atheist and support anarchy or libertarianism, you are inadvertently supporting religion too, since aside from private enterprise and government the most powerful organizations are religious ones. Without a welfare system poor people would be forced to rely on religious charity (and theft), and the middle class would live in gated communities ala South Africa to get away from the desperate indigent who will steal from them if it means their kids don't starve. If you think panhandlers are annoying now try dealing with 20 times more of them.
It would be the end of civil rights since nobody could enforce anti-discrimination laws and the wealth gap between the majority and the minority would only grow due to the nature of capitalism. Eventually this would lead to a race/class war as people became more and more desperate. If you think Ferguson is bad...
Can we have government without class warfare? This simple proposition appears to be less and less likely.
I'm not familiar with Australia (I'm American) but I am familiar with the inner city scum in the city I grew up in and it's appalling they are allowed to go on living like they are with no repercussions. Our children's children will no doubt be in a world of **** when this comes back around to haunt us. As I said it's already kind of here with the crime rate so appallingly high in this country.
I know you don't mean those "homeless" cults who occupy the corners of 94 and Lexington, and 694 and White Bear Avenue. Those people really need help.....
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I know you don't mean those "homeless" cults who occupy the corners of 94 and Lexington, and 694 and White Bear Avenue. Those people really need help.....:
Not sure the point of your post?
Your sentence doesn't have anything in relation to the (my) post you quoted.
When you use Libertarianism and Anarchy as if they are similar you lose ALL credibility.
The type of anarchy where people want to riot, overthrow the government, etc. isn't similar to libertarianism, so you're right about that. Something like anarcho-capitalism is actually considered a form of libertarianism because the principles are the same. Respect for property rights, non-aggression...it's just that minarchist libertarians think a limited government is necessary even if it goes against those principles (and the AnCap doesn't compromise those principles for any reason, so they disagree that it's necessary).
That's one of the most absurd comparisons I've ever read on this forum.
Why? Its a perfectly accurate comparison, Stalin truly believed his theories would work, he was not trying to starve folks. Its a perfect comparison. You just don't like it because it reflects negatively on people who believe in their pet theories.
And labeling folks disparagingly is a common way of dehumanizing them. Again a VERY common thing to do. Done most famously by Germany towards the Jews (also interestingly enough calling them "parasites", but theres a TON of other examples throughout history.
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