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Old 09-09-2014, 08:42 PM
 
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An incident report would have a UCR crime code on it, in particular, code 01-212.
Then, Wilson NEVER made an incident report. As stated, he didn't have to because it
was immediately turned over to St. Louis County investigators.

 
Old 09-09-2014, 08:48 PM
 
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Grand jury and trial operate very differently.

The prosecutor can block witnesses, use inadmissible evidence, exclude evidence supporting the defendant, use speculation, and has a lower standard to indict than the standard to convict at trial.
In short, the prosecutor can pretty much get the result they want at grand jury.
I am aware they are different. That's why they say a grand jury can indict a ham sandwich.
BUT in this case, the prosecutor states he is going to bring in ALL the evidence. He could be bull****ting
but that is what he says.
 
Old 09-09-2014, 09:00 PM
 
Location: Apple Valley Calif
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There has to be accountability on the police department behalf. This isn't right at all. If a police officer can get away with shooting an unarmed person with his hands up and there is no report made then we have to make some changes. This can't be accepted.

Any time an officer shoots whether it be to kill or stop a suspect there should be a report made public.

There are too many ways the officer is able to wiggle around and never held accountable. The prosecutor is a public servant as well and it doesn't seem like Bob is understanding who he serves.
There was definitely a report made, not necessarily by Wilson, but by the agency that took over the investigation. Another agency always takes over when a public department is involved. Even if a cop has a traffic accident, another agency takes over to make sure it's done fairly.
I'm sure Wilson also wrote out his complete explanation and signed it, they didn't just tel him to take the rest of the day off..!
 
Old 09-10-2014, 06:02 AM
 
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There has to be accountability on the police department behalf. This isn't right at all. IIf a police officer can get away with shooting an unarmed person with his hands up and there is no report made then we have to make some changes. This can't be accepted.

Any time an officer shoots whether it be to kill or stop a suspect there should be a report made public.

There are too many ways the officer is able to wiggle around and never held accountable. The prosecutor is a public servant as well and it doesn't seem like Bob is understanding who he serves.
Then it is the state law you need to change.......and that can be done.
 
Old 09-10-2014, 06:15 AM
 
Location: USA
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Then it is the state law you need to change.......and that can be done.
The issue of Police accountability is pretty much a nationwide issue. We have corruption all across the country in various departments.
 
Old 09-10-2014, 06:27 AM
 
Location: St Louis, MO
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Being someone who has to deal on the ground a lot with sunshine law...
If you make open investigative reports public record, you will have more transparency but at a huge cost in privacy and law enforcement.

If you think "snitches get stitches" is bad now, wait until it becomes possible to obtain each individual witness statement as it is made, to get a list of potential witnesses before they are interviewed, to get the details of any victim while the case is still open. An investigation is a tool of both the police and the criminal, and allowing the criminal to have open access to all the details of the investigation as it is going forward will make it much easier for the criminal to avoid conviction and far more difficult for a victim or witness to come forward. Remember, you cannot protect the identity of a victim or witness if no crime has been determined to occur yet, so you cannot keep their information out of the released report.
 
Old 09-10-2014, 07:15 AM
 
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Whats the latest news on this case?

Any progress in any kind of forensics, tests being found out any more details to solve this case?

Any progress in a trial or anything?
 
Old 09-10-2014, 07:17 AM
 
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Whats the latest news on this case?

Any progress in any kind of forensics, tests being found out any more details to solve this case?

Any progress in a trial or anything?
Not a lot of new details have been released. There have been some new witnesses and you can find coverage of them in the past few pages.
 
Old 09-10-2014, 07:40 AM
 
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Representatives of the groups said Wilson should be arrested, charged, photographed and indicted based on new witness statements and evidence in the case. They are calling for the St. Louis County Police Department to make the arrest because they took over the investigation from the Ferguson police.

"We believe there is enough evidence to arrest Officer Darren Wilson," said the Rev. Carlton Lee, NAN chapter president. "If probable cause is enough to arrest civilians, then it is enough to arrest police officers.

"We're wondering why Darren Wilson has been granted immunity. He is a criminal. He killed an 18-year-old, college-bound, unarmed young man."

Calls for cop's arrest in Michael Brown shooting grow
 
Old 09-10-2014, 07:44 AM
 
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Here is what we have learned about Brown's death, according to Baden: Brown was shot six times. There was "no evidence of a struggle" between Brown and Wilson when Brown was shot. The last two shots appeared to be to Brown's head. Brown could have survived all of the gunshot wounds, except for the shot to the top of his head.

Forensic Pathologist: There Was 'No Evidence of a Struggle' When Michael Brown Was Shot - NationalJournal.com
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