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Old 09-19-2014, 09:13 AM
 
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source the threads, I think this is all in your mind
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though technically, you only have to look at federal taxes collected and paid out by state to see which states give more and which states take more. . .and it would, mostly, confirm your hypothesis noted (largest receiver of federal funds are red states between Indiana and Florida)
What's wrong with that? Blue states should be proud to help out red states, blue voters created the poverty in those states anyway.

 
Old 09-19-2014, 09:14 AM
 
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I suspect Warren Buffet has quite a bit more insight into the situation than you do, and I'd put money on his opinion over yours. Btw, capital letters and cursing does not make your point any more valid.

Warren Buffett: 'We would buy a company in Detroit'

Warren Buffett and Michael Bloomberg on Detroit's turnaround
I don't believe anyone said that Detroit couldn't be fixed, all we're saying is that for the last few decades Democrats and liberals have done a great job of destroying Detroit.
 
Old 09-19-2014, 09:33 AM
 
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LOL all you want. Reality is reality. You can keep praying for the total destruction of an American city in order to reinforce your world view and push your agenda, but it does not make it true. They said the same thing about NYC in the 70s before it boomed in the 80s under a Democratic mayor.
Why would I pray for the destruction of an American city?

Why does every argument you make turn out to be a deliberate lie?
 
Old 09-19-2014, 11:47 AM
 
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What's wrong with that? Blue states should be proud to help out red states, blue voters created the poverty in those states anyway.
Blue voters created poverty in red states? Lol how? By forcing the red states to abolish slavery?
 
Old 09-19-2014, 11:50 AM
 
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When blue states stop having major cities go bankrupt you'll have a foot to stand on, until then you're just babbling.

Poverty, bankruptcy and failed liberal policy... imported from Detroit.

Oh sure, because we don't see rural poverty and Appalachia in the us. Sure. Sure. It's just the cities. Lol
 
Old 09-19-2014, 12:09 PM
 
Location: Alaska
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That sounds great but it's a proven fact that conservatives are more compassionate and more charitable than liberals. Conseravtives regularly donate more to charity and help more people than their "rich" liberal counterparts.
Yeah, maybe for the tax deductions, assuming that your "proven fact" is even true.

Liberals believe in making the playing field even to provide more opportunities for everyone, so fewer people will actually need any charity.
 
Old 09-19-2014, 12:15 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Yeah, maybe for the tax deductions, assuming that your "proven fact" is even true.

Liberals believe in making the playing field even to provide more opportunities for everyone, so fewer people will actually need any charity.
Is "making the playing field even" the new code term for wealth redistribution via class warfare?
 
Old 09-19-2014, 12:21 PM
 
Location: Alaska
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Yeah, they're kind of hypocritical. When it's something THEY want from YOU, then the mantra is, "We all live in a society," or "You use the roads, too!" But when they see that some of their money is going somewhere other than their own pocket (after .gov takes their chunk, of course), all of the sudden it's a huge problem worth whining about online.

Everyone's hypocritical, to an extent, but those on the left side of the spectrum are far worse than anyone else about it. Same goes for double standards. They'll go on for days (or weeks) about a Republican that had an affair, but when a Democrat President of the United States does it, it's none of anyone's business, right?

Hypocrites.
Nice try but let's look at the rest of the story.

Liberals make political hay out of adulterous conservatives because they ran as so-called Christians who uphold "traditional family values", so when they step on their you-know-whats, liberals will be there to call them on their hypocrisy.
 
Old 09-19-2014, 12:24 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Nice try but let's look at the rest of the story.

Liberals make political hay out of adulterous conservatives because they ran as so-called Christians who uphold "traditional family values", so when they step on their you-know-whats, liberals will be there to call them on their hypocrisy.
Like when Obama wants to have the most open administration in history and then blocks media that doesn't spin stories they way the administration wants is hypocrisy. Or when Obama runs on a platform of traditional marriage then all of the sudden changes is mind and is called on his hypocrisy? Or when the Secretary of State was for the war before he was against it?

Tell me more...
 
Old 09-19-2014, 12:27 PM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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Let's not be too ignorant now, most of the people who live in "red" states aren't recipients so they shouldn't be grateful. They're stuck paying for poor people just like you are.
But given how predominantly red these states are, I don't buy the argument of "oh, it's only the liberal minority in our states who are using up all these services..." If that was the case, then you'd expect the blue states to be the net users of the taxes, and they're not.
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