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Old 09-19-2014, 09:21 PM
 
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I'm not disputing the data, I just proved to you that blue voters in red states are more likely to consume social services money and you conveniently ignored it. It doesn't matter what you believe or not, it's a fact whether you like it or not.
What you typed doesn't make any sense for two main reasons. First of all, there is obviously more blue voters in blue states than in red states. so if the blue voters were such leeches, there should be more federal money going to blue states than red states.
Second, its because federal funding going to red states is not just food stamps and welfare but many other programs, like farm subsidies, that do not go towards the poorest citizens.

You just don't make any sense, buddy.

 
Old 09-19-2014, 09:22 PM
 
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We seem to be flooded with people (mostly return trolls) who want to gripe and whine about how they believe "rich blue states" pay to support "poor red states" because "poor red states" get back more from the federal government than they pay out.

Why is this a problem? Isn't that the most perfect, liberal utopia scenario imaginable? You get to feel good about paying your "fair share" as a rich blue stater and you don't have actually be bothered by the poor people you help.

Who cares which state pays more and which state spends more federal tax dollars, it's clear that some states are more in need than your ultra rich blue states so why do you have a problem helping out those who are less fortunate than yourselves? Aren't liberals all about compassion and helping people?
So please tell me why these red states need so much help. Then we can go from there. I mean aren't you one of those complaining about welfare and food stamps.
 
Old 09-19-2014, 09:25 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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So please tell me why these red states need so much help. Then we can go from there. I mean aren't you one of those complaining about welfare and food stamps.
You can read post 53 for the answer.
 
Old 09-19-2014, 09:27 PM
 
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So please tell me why these red states need so much help. Then we can go from there. I mean aren't you one of those complaining about welfare and food stamps.
Because these red, mostly Southern states are filled with poor, uneducated and unproductive people. Some have large illegal immigrant populations as well.
 
Old 09-19-2014, 09:30 PM
 
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Because these red, mostly Southern states are filled with poor, uneducated and unproductive people. Some have large illegal immigrant populations as well.
How is that possible? I thought you told us that the most poor and uneducated people live in blue states, specifically in big liberal cities and and that's why these states vote Democrat. Has something changed in the last 15 minutes?
 
Old 09-19-2014, 09:31 PM
 
Location: Seminole, Florida
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Because these red, mostly Southern states are filled with poor, uneducated and unproductive people. Some have large illegal immigrant populations as well.
And many of them relied HEAVILY on Manufacturing and Agriculture.
 
Old 09-19-2014, 09:31 PM
 
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What you typed doesn't make any sense for two main reasons. First of all, there is obviously more blue voters in blue states than in red states. so if the blue voters were such leeches, there should be more federal money going to blue states than red states.
Second, its because federal funding going to red states is not just food stamps and welfare but many other programs, like farm subsidies, that do not go towards the poorest citizens.

You just don't make any sense, buddy.
It makes perfect sense, you're just too ignorant to grasp what we're saying.

Red states have the overwhelming majority of military bases, that makes up a huge chunk of federal spending which is included in your numbers and has nothing to do with poor red or blue voters. Those tax dollars are going to buy fuel, bullets, jets and military vehicles.

Red states have tons of agriculture land in them, that also makes up a large chunk of the federal tax dollars that gets spent because someone has to subsidize these farmers who feed the huge urban areas in your blue states. The hipsters in NY growing tomatoes might seem cool but they couldn't feed themselves to save their lives.

Red states deal with a majority of incoming illegal immigrants, that's just a cold hard fact.
 
Old 09-19-2014, 09:32 PM
 
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How is that possible? I thought you told us that the most poor and uneducated people live in blue states, and that's why these states vote Democratic. Has something changed in the last 15 minutes?
Please point out exactly where I said that, you must have misread something again.

I'll wait.
 
Old 09-19-2014, 09:33 PM
 
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Because these red, mostly Southern states are filled with poor, uneducated and unproductive people.
Bingo! Try to get them to go to school and they will call it a liberal indoctrination center.

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Some have large illegal immigrant populations as well.
Most don't though.

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And many of them relied HEAVILY on Manufacturing and Agriculture.
Manufacturing was never big in the south.
 
Old 09-19-2014, 09:38 PM
 
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Because these red, mostly Southern states are filled with poor, uneducated and unproductive people. Some have large illegal immigrant populations as well.
Exactly. But you blame democrats for wanting to help the poor with welfare for political reasons. Yet the south doesn't vote democratic.
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