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Old 09-26-2014, 12:20 PM
 
Location: Austin
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Not really. I felt much more unsafe when Bush was your President. There were actually protests around the entire world... and then Obama got elected and people threw parties around the world... literally. lol.

And then there was that whole 9/11 thing. Absolutely terrifying.

I don't agree with all of Obama's policies (he's too right wing for me) but Obama has been a breath of fresh air.
"The percentage of Americans who believe the United States is less safe is at its highest point since the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, according to a new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll.

Forty-seven percent say the country is less safe, while just 26% say it’s safer.

That’s compared with the results from Sept. 2002 (when just 20% said the country was less safe) and from last year (when it was 28%)."

MSNBC, Poll: Americans feel unsafe, support action against ISIS
09/09/14


This same poll also revealed President Obama has hit his lowest ever approval numbers on the issue of foreign policy with only 32% of Americans approving and a whopping 62% disapproving.


Some "fresh air".
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Old 09-26-2014, 12:21 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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I was speaking about the accusation of the world being less safe because of Obama. Bush was strutting around pissing off the entire world. We even had giant protests on the streets of Toronto because of him.

I'm not talking about if people are scared or not because of world events. What would that poll have said if you asked on 9/12? Do you feel safer? Uhhhh.
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Old 09-26-2014, 12:27 PM
 
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According to the NYPost, Islamic State terrorists are plotting an attack on US and Paris subway systems, Iraq’s prime minister warned Thursday morning at the United Nations.

Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi said he was told of the plot by his intelligence in Baghdad, and that it was from foreign ISIS fighters in Iraq, according to the Associated Press.

What a mess we are in. Obama's "smart" diplomacy worked well, didn't it? What a failure this guy has been, in every way.
How is this obamas fault when the guy you voted for helped them rise to power with A MOSSAD AGENT

Picture of Simon Elliot (Elliot Shimon) aka Al-Baghdadi with AZ Senator John McCain
Aangirfan: ISIS IS RUN BY SIMON ELLIOT, A MOSSAD AGENT
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Old 09-26-2014, 12:31 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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We have countries aiming active nuclear missiles at us capable of killing millions of Americans. Nobody really cares.

Bunch of illiterate ISIS, who can't even find America on a map, scare you?
Please tell me you are really not that ignorant.
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Old 09-26-2014, 12:44 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Not really. I felt much more unsafe when Bush was your President. There were actually protests around the entire world... and then Obama got elected and people threw parties around the world... literally. lol.

And then there was that whole 9/11 thing. Absolutely terrifying.

I don't agree with all of Obama's policies (he's too right wing for me) but Obama has been a breath of fresh air.
I guess if the smell of horse manure seems like "fresh air" to you, he might be.

Nobody is throwing any parties right now around the world because of Obama. Our allies, if we still have any, wish he would just dry up and blow away. What must they be thinking? Do you think they feel secure in the knowledge that if they are attacked, Obama will send troops in their defense? Or do they see his slow and inadequate response to ISIS (or, ISIL, whatever is the currently popular acronym) as a sample of how Obama would respond on their behalf, should they come under attack? It's a fair question. I think his response to the invasion the Ukraine by Russia is a good indicator.
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Old 09-26-2014, 12:58 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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I was speaking about the accusation of the world being less safe because of Obama. Bush was strutting around pissing off the entire world. We even had giant protests on the streets of Toronto because of him.
Well, who the hell gives a damn what Canadians think? They are all socialists! They don't have half the freedom we have (and we've been losing a lot of it under the so-called "Progressives," which is what most Canadians are. It's backward thinking. There is nothing new in "Progressivism."

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I'm not talking about if people are scared or not because of world events. What would that poll have said if you asked on 9/12? Do you feel safer? Uhhhh.
The point is, people feel vastly less safe today than when Barack Obama took office. When the idiot in the Oval Office (when he's not on the golf course) tells us "Al Qaeda is on the run," and mere weeks later (if that) our Consulate in Benghazi is attacked by a faction of Al Qaeda, and four Americans are brutally killed, (while Obama did nothing to even attempt to rescue them), and then everything we gained in Iraq is lost to a new bunch of terrorist savages, all having one thing in common with the others — they are all Muslim — are Americans really supposed to feel safer???
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Old 09-26-2014, 01:01 PM
 
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This latest alarm was created by the media. Spreading fear and panic - the price America pays for its free media is increasingly high. they were supposed to be the watchdog of democracy.
In latest decades America is a scared nation. We live in fear and anxiety is our most common ailment: the economy, terrorism, global warming, sex offenders, ebola, you name it.
The Isis people who are pulverized daily by our bombs, live less fearful lives. So are the Afghans.

Back to the OP: there wasn't a specific threat. Although yes, if you kill that many Isisis, they will probably respond. Therfore, its the best time to start a national tournament of who yells "fire" louder.
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Old 09-26-2014, 01:07 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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According to the NYPost, Islamic State terrorists are plotting an attack on US and Paris subway systems, Iraq’s prime minister warned Thursday morning at the United Nations.

Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi said he was told of the plot by his intelligence in Baghdad, and that it was from foreign ISIS fighters in Iraq, according to the Associated Press.

What a mess we are in. Obama's "smart" diplomacy worked well, didn't it? What a failure this guy has been, in every way.
Translation:

"So you gotta fight them here and, while you're at it, save me and my fellow Iraqi cowards!"

[the tail rattles the dog]
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Old 09-26-2014, 01:15 PM
 
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According to the NYPost, Islamic State terrorists are plotting an attack on US and Paris subway systems, Iraq’s prime minister warned Thursday morning at the United Nations.

Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi said he was told of the plot by his intelligence in Baghdad, and that it was from foreign ISIS fighters in Iraq, according to the Associated Press.

What a mess we are in. Obama's "smart" diplomacy worked well, didn't it? What a failure this guy has been, in every way.
Even I give ISIS a map, they wouldn't be able to find where USA is, let alone New York city.

Listening to the Iraqi prime minister? Who else is going to save his skin if he can't get Americans to help him?

Well, I guess we Americans are just that stupid - I bet a large percentage doesn't know where New York city is, not to mention Iraq but hey, with the money we borrowed, we are good at bombing people, who don't pose any real threat.

10 million dollar missile for a $2 terrorist's tent!!! Yah!!!
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Old 09-26-2014, 01:29 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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They're supposed to love us and we'll all sing and dance together.
Have you ever seen the movie, "Mars Attacks!" where the American President and his peeps keep up the "If only we could just talk to them" mantra and each and every time they get together, the Martians zap the people there to make nice including the news media, white house advisors, congress, generals, world leaders, the obligatory dove releasing hippie and the president? (I guess Code Pink didn't exist yet.) It's actually hilarious campy stuff and the movie was made in 1996 but when Obama first ran for President in 2008, this movie came immediately to mind. I highly recommend it.

Diplomacy only works with rational human beings, not a bunch of crackpots.
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