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I wish the armchair revolutionaries would finally get out of their armchairs and do something. I am pretty sure that the forces they will be facing are not scared of a bunch of fat idiots that think playing in the woods on the weekend makes them tougher than a tank or A10. All I hear is whining about revolution by people who never do a damn thing.
Talking about the right of the people to revolt doesn't mean at this time I think we should revolt.
Your argument is tired.
Recent history is littered with examples of armed civilians staving off much more advanced armed forces. You also forget the armed forces pledge allegence to the constitution, not the president, and would not turn and attack their brothers.
It would surprise me. You wouldn't find people like your loud mouth governor on the front line. The few that attempted armed resistance would be killed. It's always happened.
Thanks for proving your Ignorance when it comes to who Texans are, what they stand for and what they are capable of. That look of shock would be interesting to see on the faces of those such as yourself that claim it would be a cake walk turned into looking for a way to run away if it ever came down to a real knock down drag out fight. Ignorance and over confidence are the ingredients for disaster, let's us all hope it never comes to that point.
One more time, there is no right sanctioned by the Second Amendment to take up arms against the government; and even to advocate such action is a federal offense. 18 U.S.C. § 2385 provides:
Whoever knowingly or willfully advocates, abets, advises, or teaches the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying the government of the United States or the government of any State, Territory, District or Possession thereof, or the government of any political subdivision therein, by force or violence, or by the assassination of any officer of any such government; or
Whoever, with intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of any such government, prints, publishes, edits, issues, circulates, sells, distributes, or publicly displays any written or printed matter advocating, advising, or teaching the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying any government in the United States by force or violence, or attempts to do so; or
Whoever organizes or helps or attempts to organize any society, group, or assembly of persons who teach, advocate, or encourage the overthrow or destruction of any such government by force or violence; or becomes or is a member of, or affiliates with, any such society, group, or assembly of persons, knowing the purposes thereof—
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.
If two or more persons conspire to commit any offense named in this section, each shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.
As used in this section, the terms "organizes" and "organize", with respect to any society, group, or assembly of persons, include the recruiting of new members, the forming of new units, and the regrouping or expansion of existing clubs, classes, and other units of such society, group, or assembly of persons.
You should educate yourself; or learn the hard way.
Talking about the right of the people to revolt doesn't mean at this time I think we should revolt.
Your argument is tired.
Recent history is littered with examples of armed civilians staving off much more advanced armed forces. You also forget the armed forces pledge allegence to the constitution, not the president, and would not turn and attack their brothers.
TRUE. Just because people say if the Government went too far they would fight for their Freedom is not say anyone is planning to do so, it simply means there are lines the government cannot cross without having nullified the agreements that make the government a valid entity. I personally hope it never comes to the point where the Union breaks up, I believe we are better off as a People if we stick together and work out our differences. Even this Liberal, that has served his Nation, believes there are lines that the Government cannot cross without losing it legal authority to govern us as a People and if not allowed to leave in peace then I and Millions of others would do it the hard way no matter the cost to be paid. The one good thing is I know that I am far from alone in that thinking.
One more time, there is no right sanctioned by the Second Amendment to take up arms against the government; and even to advocate such action is a federal offense. 18 U.S.C. § 2385 provides:
Whoever knowingly or willfully advocates, abets, advises, or teaches the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying the government of the United States or the government of any State, Territory, District or Possession thereof, or the government of any political subdivision therein, by force or violence, or by the assassination of any officer of any such government; or
Whoever, with intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of any such government, prints, publishes, edits, issues, circulates, sells, distributes, or publicly displays any written or printed matter advocating, advising, or teaching the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying any government in the United States by force or violence, or attempts to do so; or
Whoever organizes or helps or attempts to organize any society, group, or assembly of persons who teach, advocate, or encourage the overthrow or destruction of any such government by force or violence; or becomes or is a member of, or affiliates with, any such society, group, or assembly of persons, knowing the purposes thereof—
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.
If two or more persons conspire to commit any offense named in this section, each shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.
As used in this section, the terms "organizes" and "organize", with respect to any society, group, or assembly of persons, include the recruiting of new members, the forming of new units, and the regrouping or expansion of existing clubs, classes, and other units of such society, group, or assembly of persons.
You should educate yourself; or learn the hard way.
Just a thought, no one here knows who it is you are addressing unless you use the quote function, it is located down in the bottom right of each post. Even wonder why people often do not reply you your posts?
The Second Amendment was never intended to sanction armed resistance against the government. That's not the way we defend our rights in America. Our rights and liberty is maintained by law, not guns. It is the duty of the citizenry and the government it elects to uphold the Constitution, which is the supreme law of the land. In this, we do not exercise our constitutional rights as citizens by armed insurrection; we do so peacefully at the ballot box and in the courts of law. Under the Constitution, the mechanism for effecting change is through our elected representatives by vote, not by violence - by lawful process, not lawlessness.
There was a man, tried and convicted, the other day because he exercised his second amendment rights during a no knock police raid.
Yeah, you can own guns, using them on police, is another matter entirely.
So long as the police announce themselves I agree, but if you kick in my door in the middle of the night and are not yelling "Police!" and on top of that it is dark and I cannot see your uniform, you will get shot, several times. This is not rocket science and if police want to make late night raids and not announce themselves they should expect to get into a fire fight. Yes, they would probably win through shear numbers, but they will lose some of their own along the way, and in the long run they will run out of people willing to do this the wrong way. Knock on the door and announce your presence, heck go ahead and kick in the door and announce your presence, otherwise expect trouble and more deaths. People have a right to protect themselves against intruders.
It would surprise me. You wouldn't find people like your loud mouth governor on the front line. The few that attempted armed resistance would be killed. It's always happened.
Funny how it did not happen in 1775 when a bunch of citizens took up arms against their lawful government.
This lady was a survivor of the Luby's massacre and she said what needed to be said. Love the point when asked who she felt she needed to defend herself against and she looks at them and says You. She went onto to serving in our Legislature and is a good example for those that believe Texans will not stand up for our rights.
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