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i was a witness to a minor incident, and i was asked to be a witness. a man was reading the newspaper quietly in the library not bothering anyone. a librarian and guard came over and told him he had to leave because he was drinking something. a loud arument occured for a while and the librarian went to call the cops. as they were leaving the man pushed the guard out of the way to talk to the librarian who was walking away.
the librarian did not give him a warning nor have any prior run-ins with the library and the man was not being a nusiance to anyone before the guard and librarian came over. he was not a bum just a regular guy maybe in his late 60's early 70's reading the paper minding his own busnoness. the librarian even admited that a warning should have been given before she asked me if i would be willing to be a witness. the guy had already left the library by the time i was being questioned.
the whole charge was him pushing the guard. i felt the librarian was being to harsh on the guy, so i declined to be a witness.
A 'witness' is just exactly that .... a person who will say exactly to the best of their knowledge what they "witnessed". It's not taking a side - it's telling what you saw or heard or both.
You didn't do the man any favors by declining to tell what you saw -- now it becomes a matter of "he said, she said".
I would always agree to be a witness to an event - if you think that somebody is being treated unfairly, then your "witness" of the event should help to clear up matters.
I would like to know why they had a "guard" also? and whats he deal with the Librarian getting all Prison Warden acting? Did they charge the older fellow? I agree with you Ceece,the DHS bullcrap has got to go...maybe next election ....
we have guards because of the homeless problem, for keeping kids safe, and to enforce library rules like noise. this librarian just didn't like this guy for some reason, and when she threatened to call the police he just left. no charge was filled. i think the man may have threatened to charge the librarian before he left because she sounded worried like she could lose her job when we were talking.
i was a witness to a minor incident, and i was asked to be a witness. a man was reading the newspaper quietly in the library not bothering anyone. a librarian and guard came over and told him he had to leave because he was drinking something. a loud arument occured for a while and the librarian went to call the cops. as they were leaving the man pushed the guard out of the way to talk to the librarian who was walking away.
the librarian did not give him a warning nor have any prior run-ins with the library and the man was not being a nusiance to anyone before the guard and librarian came over. he was not a bum just a regular guy maybe in his late 60's early 70's reading the paper minding his own busnoness. the librarian even admited that a warning should have been given before she asked me if i would be willing to be a witness. the guy had already left the library by the time i was being questioned.
the whole charge was him pushing the guard. i felt the librarian was being to harsh on the guy, so i declined to be a witness.
If you receive a subpoena.....that is not an invitation.
A 'witness' is just exactly that .... a person who will say exactly to the best of their knowledge what they "witnessed". It's not taking a side - it's telling what you saw or heard or both.
You didn't do the man any favors by declining to tell what you saw -- now it becomes a matter of "he said, she said".
I would always agree to be a witness to an event - if you think that somebody is being treated unfairly, then your "witness" of the event should help to clear up matters.
i think the man was in the wrong. my witness would have gone against the man. i declined because i felt the librarian was to harsh with the guy by not giving him a warning. he was just a normal(not a bum) guy reading the newspaper. the librarian even told me she should have given him a warning. there were 3 other witnesses, but i was the only one who saw him push the guard.
i was a witness to a minor incident, and i was asked to be a witness. a man was reading the newspaper quietly in the library not bothering anyone. a librarian and guard came over and told him he had to leave because he was drinking something. a loud arument occured for a while and the librarian went to call the cops. as they were leaving the man pushed the guard out of the way to talk to the librarian who was walking away.
the librarian did not give him a warning nor have any prior run-ins with the library and the man was not being a nusiance to anyone before the guard and librarian came over. he was not a bum just a regular guy maybe in his late 60's early 70's reading the paper minding his own busnoness. the librarian even admited that a warning should have been given before she asked me if i would be willing to be a witness. the guy had already left the library by the time i was being questioned.
the whole charge was him pushing the guard. i felt the librarian was being to harsh on the guy, so i declined to be a witness.
we have guards because of the homeless problem, for keeping kids safe, and to enforce library rules like noise. this librarian just didn't like this guy for some reason, and when she threatened to call the police he just left. no charge was filled. i think the man may have threatened to charge the librarian before he left because she sounded worried like she could lose her job when we were talking.
If the man is drinking and it's a violation of a rule then the Librarian needs to fallow the procedure or policy to deal with it. If that is a warning first then she broke the policy and contributed to the problem.
The guard being pushed is the one with a legitimate complaint but is not mentioned as the party that is perusing action.
You made a decision that you feel is correct and I support it.
If the man is drinking and it's a violation of a rule then the Librarian needs to fallow the procedure or policy to deal with it. If that is a warning first then she broke the policy and contributed to the problem.
The guard being pushed is the one with a legitimate complaint but is not mentioned as the party that is perusing action.
You made a decision that you feel is correct and I support it.
the only thing i'm worried about is the consequences of my decision not to be a witness because this is my home library, and i have a long relationship with the people who work there. it's going to feel very awkward seeing them knowing now that they may hate me for not standing up for them. there's a small part of me that says to just be a witness to show solidarity. when the librarian asked me to be a witness, i didn't say i wouldn't be a witness; i asked librarian if i could have time to think about it.
that is the problem you dont have a issue with people drinking in the library but i do.
also the bum shoving the guard around and getting aggressive and belligerent with the librarian is a non issue for you.
we are not on the same page.
honesty, i don't think he knew about the no drinking policy. he had a foreign accent, so i'm guessing he thought it was okay maybe because from where he's from it's okay to drink in libraries. but you are right about his aggresiveness with librarian, it was pretty ugly.
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