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Old 10-13-2014, 01:26 PM
 
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The Arabs states are begging for the US to send in troops to fight ISIS. Well, what the hell are THEY doing? It's in their own damn backyard! Yes, I do want US troops on the ground because they are the only ones who seem to have the courage to fight, with the exception of the Kurds (men and women). The Christians would sure as hell fight, but they are not allowed to possess weapons apparently.

Turkey wants us to fight against Assad, not ISIS. They don't even want to let us use their airbases. And why isn't ISIS attacking Turkey... because they are on the same side.

Fight for Kobani intensifies; ISIS takes Iraq base - CNN.com

 
Old 10-13-2014, 01:29 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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The Arabs states are begging for the US to send in troops to fight ISIS. Well, what the hell are THEY doing? It's in their own damn backyard! Yes, I do want US troops on the ground because they are the only ones who seem to have the courage to fight, with the exception of the Kurds (men and women). The Christians would sure as hell fight, but they are not allowed to possess weapons apparently.

Turkey wants us to fight against Assad, not ISIS. They don't even want to let us use their airbases. And why isn't ISIS attacking Turkey... because they are on the same side.

Fight for Kobani intensifies; ISIS takes Iraq base - CNN.com
Not sure I agree with sending in American Troops to save Iraq. But that's just me.
 
Old 10-13-2014, 01:36 PM
 
Location: Sugarmill Woods , FL
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Where is the all mighty ISIL getting funding from? And why not stop any and ALL sources funding them?
 
Old 10-13-2014, 01:39 PM
 
Location: southern california
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many arabs have supported isis
when 911 happened the parties that night in dearborn could be heard for miles.
 
Old 10-13-2014, 01:44 PM
 
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Jordan offers to send troops to kill Isis fighters in Syria | The Times


Deal reached: ISIS to leave Arsal, soldiers to be released | News , Lebanon News | THE DAILY STAR

The Arab allies helping the US fight Isis | World news | The Guardian

I have no idea where you got the idea that Arab nations are not involved in fighting IS.
 
Old 10-13-2014, 01:47 PM
 
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Another poster has said this and i'll reiterate it...when you don't know the players, don't play the game.

The United States doesn't know the players in the Middle Eastern game. Which is why we need to leave as fast as possible.
 
Old 10-13-2014, 01:55 PM
 
Location: Mississippi
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It is interesting, to say the least. When Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait in the early 90's, there was also a large plea from countries in the Middle East begging us to help. Among those countries was Saudi Arabia (who even offered to pay every American military member a large chunk of change for helping - we declined as our troops shouldn't be viewed as mercenaries). It was Saudi Arabia where Osama bin Laden was from and it was also bin Laden who had offered the Saudis help from his Afghani mujahideen fighters to help defend Mecca - the Muslim Holy Land.

When Saudi Arabia turned its back on bin Laden and his mujahideen and opted for American military support, it enraged bin Laden that Western military forces stepped foot into the land of Mecca to help defend it against what he deemed was one of the ultimate holy wars. That rage was directed straight at America (who had helped and armed bin Laden in his fight against the Russians) and we know the rest.

Of course, it was more likely that bin Laden's psychopathic tendencies would have ultimately been directed towards the West at some point anyway but those closest to bin Laden have frequently pointed out our presence in the Middle East as a major turning point.

I think our presence in the Middle East propagates a hundred little Osama's, probably every day. Maybe not all of them have the monetary means or even the intelligence (I hate to admit it but bin Laden wasn't a complete idiot) to do what he did but the rage and anger is probably no different.

Our problem is that all those oil-rich countries beg for our help and since our oil-heavy economy relies so much on their products, we're put between a rock and a hard place. Allow the Middle East to destabilize because of groups like ISIL and watch oil prices shoot through the roof or engage in military conflict and spawn more terror groups. It's a double-edged sword that, in my opinion, is only best solved by relinquishing our dependency on foreign oil.
 
Old 10-13-2014, 02:04 PM
 
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maybe we ought to start charging for our services.

you want us to fight your enemies? that'll cost you $10M a day.
 
Old 10-13-2014, 02:08 PM
 
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Where is the all mighty ISIL getting funding from? And why not stop any and ALL sources funding them?
That would harm our economy and the ability of politicians to buy votes.
 
Old 10-13-2014, 02:24 PM
 
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Of course the Arab nations are willing to fight... nod, nod, wink, wink...get it? There's a big difference between 'offering' to help, and actually putting your troops against ISIS.

The king of Jordan supports striking ISIS, perhaps because the ISIS leaders want to 'slaughter' him, but no boots for you!
"King Abdullah has made clear that Jordan will not put boots on the ground in Iraq and Syria"
http://english.alarabiya.net/en/view...-alliance.html

"ISIS terrorists recently posted a video on YouTube in which they threatened to "slaughter" Abdullah, whom they denounced as a "tyrant."
ISIS Threatens to Invade Jordan, 'Slaughter' King Abdullah
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