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View Poll Results: Which do you see as a WMD off the top of your head
Nuclear Weapons 12 20.69%
Chemical Weapons 6 10.34%
Biological 0 0%
All of the above 40 68.97%
Voters: 58. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 10-15-2014, 05:43 PM
 
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So when people were given an unbiased poll, they answered truthfully, but became untruthful when Party ID came into frame.

At least you admit it.

The poll you gave?

 
Old 10-15-2014, 05:52 PM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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I can tell you as a retired member of the military, that WMD has always stood for any type of weapon that can cause mass casualties...

be it nuclear, biological, or chemical

even the UN weapons inspectors were talking about sarin and VX
Indeed.

Which is why the military called it NBC defense training during the Cold War. It has since been upgraded to Chemical, Biological, Radiological and Nuclear (CBRN) defense training.
 
Old 10-15-2014, 05:59 PM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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I could be wrong, but that link says Saddam had the capacity to make WMD, so unless he postulated that Iraq had a nuclear program he could not have been talking about nukes. I don't recall ever hearing about nukes in Iraq in my gov or history classes though.
Iraq did have a nuclear program, but they were nowhere close to making anything like weapons grade fissionable material. They had yellow-cake, gas centrifuges, and other items necessary to manufacture nuclear weapons, but no refined fissionable material. At best, Iraq's nuclear weapons program was still in its infancy to intermediate stage. They still had a long way to go before they could manufacture a functioning nuke.
 
Old 10-15-2014, 06:06 PM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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The Bush presidency was a bit before me, so I don't actually know what he was talking about. This says that no WMD's were made after 1991, but references nuclear as well.

Report: No Iraq WMDs Made After '91 | Fox News
Correct.

The Sarin gas found in the artillery shells along the Tigris River by the Polish troops were actually manufactured prior to 1991.

While not the WMD that Bush had intended to find, Sarin gas is most certainly a WMD. As the Khurds can attest when Saddam used both mustard and Sarin gas on them in Halabja in 1989. Bush was specifically looking for WMDs manufactured after 1991, of which none appear to have been found.
 
Old 10-15-2014, 06:09 PM
 
Location: Eastern NC
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When I hear WMD, I think of all the lies that Bush and Co. said that resulted in over 4,000+ dead Americans.
 
Old 10-15-2014, 06:10 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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I can tell you as a retired member of the military, that WMD has always stood for any type of weapon that can cause mass casualties...

be it nuclear, biological, or chemical

even the UN weapons inspectors were talking about sarin and VX
Stop talking what we learned. The folks with BDS will call us liars and right wing nut jobs anyway.
 
Old 10-15-2014, 06:12 PM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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When I hear WMD, I think of all the lies that Bush and Co. said that resulted in over 4,000+ dead Americans.
Which only demonstrates that you know nothing about the acronym.
 
Old 10-15-2014, 06:16 PM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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It was always presented as a nuclear issue regarding Iraq.

Viewed in isolation it is nothing. One must observe within context.

Saddam already used chemical weapons against the Kurds. No surpise there. U.S. troops were gear for chemical and biological protection dating back to the 1st Gulf War.

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Old 10-15-2014, 06:17 PM
 
Location: Here
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All of it. Whatever kills the most with the minimum amount of expenditure. Nuclear 25 – 30 megatons, chemical nerve gas that kills within 30 – 90 seconds of exposure, biological advanced disease that is 100% fatal, 100% incurable, 100% desired result after super, quick, rapid, uncontrollable super mutation. Selection Number 4, an extinction / organism extinguishing event.
 
Old 10-15-2014, 07:00 PM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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It was always presented as a nuclear issue regarding Iraq.

Viewed in isolation it is nothing. One must observe within context.

Saddam already used chemical weapons against the Kurds. No surpise there. U.S. troops were gear for chemical and biological protection dating back to the 1st Gulf War.
It is only presented that way by those who are ignorant. Weapons of Mass Destruction by the US military has always included nuclear, biological, and chemical weapons since the 1960s. Since the late 1990s the term was changed to chemical, biological, radiological, and nuclear (CBRN).
"CBRN weapons or agents are often referred to as weapons of mass destruction (WMD)." --- CBRN defense - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"A weapon of mass destruction (WMD or WoMD) is a nuclear, radiological, biological, chemical or other weapon that can kill and bring significant harm to a large number of humans or cause great damage to man-made structures (e.g. buildings), natural structures (e.g. mountains), or the biosphere." --- Weapon of mass destruction - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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