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Old 10-20-2014, 02:38 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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I disagree. It should be set at the lowest minimum that keeps working Americans above the poverty level.
why...even YOU just said in post 5 before this said that many of the states are higher than the federal...


why would you need a federal if the states already have a min wage at or higher....


why doesn't the LWNJs ever use their brain...only FOLLOW what the masters tell them
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Old 10-20-2014, 02:41 PM
 
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why...even YOU just said in post 5 before this said that many of the states are higher than the federal...


why would you need a federal if the states already have a min wage at or higher....


why doesn't the LWNJs ever use their brain...only FOLLOW what the masters tell them
Because very few states actually have minimum wages that are reasonable.
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Old 10-20-2014, 02:44 PM
 
Location: Billings, MT
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I disagree. It should be set at the lowest minimum that keeps working Americans above the poverty level.
I disagree. If you want to live above the poverty level, get education and training to improve yourself and make yourself more marketable. When you become of more value to Society, you can expect to make more money.
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Old 10-20-2014, 02:44 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Because very few states actually have minimum wages that are reasonable.
oh..DEFINE reasonable


98% of americans work for way MORE than min wage

min wage is for UNSKILLED workers...



but please...DEFINE reasonable.....
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Old 10-20-2014, 02:48 PM
 
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I like the idea of state's rights.

I like local laws too.
state's rights... as in racism?
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Old 10-20-2014, 02:51 PM
 
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oh..DEFINE reasonable


98% of americans work for way MORE than min wage

min wage is for UNSKILLED workers...



but please...DEFINE reasonable.....
You can pay for a 1 bedroom apartment, food, water, electric, health insurance, bus pass in a city or cheap car and insurance in the country, internet, Cell phone (oddly in the modern age this and the internet really are basics-especially if you are looking for work). And you can watch 1 movie a month, and go out to eat twice in a month at someplace cheap while working 40 hours a week....All without any state help.

When the minimum wage was half of what it was today that was doable on it. Today it is not.

And so what if its for unskilled workers....did you know there used to be really well paying unskilled labor jobs that paid well because they were physically demanding? Today...those pay minimum wage. as time goes by the definition of who minimum wage is for is slowly changing......
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Old 10-20-2014, 02:53 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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why...even YOU just said in post 5 before this said that many of the states are higher than the federal...


why would you need a federal if the states already have a min wage at or higher....


why doesn't the LWNJs ever use their brain...only FOLLOW what the masters tell them
To prevent any state for setting the minimum wage below the poverty level.
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Old 10-20-2014, 02:55 PM
 
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Again, is this about something specific or another one of your general rants you do? What "one size fits all" policy or law are you upset about?
I'm gonna take a wild guess here and say it doesn't include the NRA's one size fits all rule
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Old 10-20-2014, 02:55 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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I disagree. If you want to live above the poverty level, get education and training to improve yourself and make yourself more marketable. When you become of more value to Society, you can expect to make more money.
Working full time hours should get you pay above the poverty level, moving higher above the poverty level to more comfortable living, that is on the individual. When people make pay that is below the poverty level, it is the tax payers that pick up that tab to help those individuals to stay out of deep poverty.

If you want less people to be relying on tax payer money, then the pay for full time workers needs to be above the poverty level.
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Old 10-20-2014, 02:56 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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oh..DEFINE reasonable


98% of americans work for way MORE than min wage

min wage is for UNSKILLED workers...



but please...DEFINE reasonable.....
Paying someone 50 cents more than federal minimum wage isn't really something to brag about.
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