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Old 11-09-2014, 07:07 AM
 
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Well, actually the Klan was created in Indiana.

But yeah, they certainly had STRONG support in the south at the time.
No, the Klan was founded in Tennessee. Link for you: Ku Klux Klan - Facts & Summary - HISTORY.com
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Old 11-09-2014, 07:12 AM
 
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Are you really arguing that you have historical data saying every founding member of the KKK was a Democrat ?

2. Malcolm X said Southern Segregationist, not Southern Democrat. So how am i derailing anything ???
No I'm not arguing that every founding member of the KKK was a democrat. I am stating that the reason that the KKK existed as a group was to resist new reconstruction policies heralded by republicans by supporting democratic victories. Perhaps some of the people interested in that cause were non-democrats but it wouldn't make much logical sense

Ku Klux Klan - Facts & Summary - HISTORY.com

You are attempting to derail because the theme of the speech was about black support for democrats.
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Old 11-09-2014, 07:38 AM
 
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Both you and "brother" Malcolm are wrong seeing as the majority of black people in the 1960's lived in the South at a higher volume than they do now.

Who they voted for didnt matter, because the Democrat was going to win either way.

lets look at the 1960 Senate elections shall we....

Alabama, John Sparkman 70.2%
Arkansas, John L. McClellan unopposed
Georgia, Richard Russell, Jr. unopposed
Louisiana, Allen J. Ellender 79.8%
Mississippi, James O. Eastland 91.8%
North Carolina, B. Everett Jordan 61.5%
South Carolina, Strom Thurmond Unopposed
Tennessee, Estes Kefauver 71.8%

tell me which one of those senators would have lost if black people just voted for the Southern Republican, who by the way, also would have voted against the civil rights act ????
Aside from those who ran unopposed your data does indicate that there were some congressmen whose election would not have changed regardless of how the black population (20-30% of the states you mentioned) voted. I give you that. However the black vote was key in presidential elections and the president, as default head of a party, should've had more sway in determining when and how the black vote was addressed.
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Old 11-09-2014, 07:45 AM
 
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You can throw insults all you want, but you have yet to disprove my point. You didnt even try because you knew you couldnt.

This also isnt an "opportunity", He was making an argument based on a flawed point, I simply showed that flaw with actual election results.
First of all I'm a woman which would be evident to you if you knew anything about African history.
Second of all my point is still that the democratic party takes blacks for granted. It did then and it does now. Black supporters of the democratic party, however, have very little to show for their loyalty. Your posting of statistics about election results for a handful of senators does not dispute that truth.
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Old 11-09-2014, 08:18 AM
 
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No. My point is that black people have been voting for a party that couldn't care less about them for decades and brother Malcolm is one of many who pointed that out. I usually say exactly what I mean (see post 1).

I'm curious, when has the republican party showed so much love and support for black people after the civil rights movement?
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Old 11-09-2014, 08:27 AM
 
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I'm curious, when has the republican party showed so much love and support for black people after the civil rights movement?
As a group the republican party has shown love for blacks (as a group) at no time since the civil rights movement. Brother Malcolm was not a supporter of the GOP and neither am I.
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Old 11-09-2014, 11:36 AM
 
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I'm curious, when has the republican party showed so much love and support for black people after the civil rights movement?
Never. They didn't support us then either.

The Republican Party is openly hostile to African Americans as far as I'm concerned. They know it.

And for folks that don't believe it, they should read these threads for confirmation.
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Old 11-09-2014, 12:37 PM
 
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No. My point is that black people have been voting for a party that couldn't care less about them for decades and brother Malcolm is one of many who pointed that out. I usually say exactly what I mean (see post 1).
I have heard this comment from some blacks and a lot of whites on the Internet and Fox. But as a few other posters have indicated, what have the Republicans done? What is the legislation that they have implemented?

Beyond the concept of what Republicans have done, I do not share their beliefs so why would I vote for them?

Some of my beliefs listed here are at polar opposites with theirs:
Equal rights for gays
Pro Choice
Public schools
Against corporate welfare, especially to Big Energy
For ACA but would prefer single payer
Background checks on ALL gun buys
Immediate and complete normalization of relations with Cuba
Against Keystone. Let the Canadians run it across Canada
Coverage for birth control before Viagra
Corporations are not people
Preservation of the environment
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Old 11-09-2014, 12:43 PM
 
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Shows how things haven't changed much in 40 years. Black Americans still cling to the Democrat chains.


Elbert Guillory: Mary Landrieu is Not Helping Blacks - YouTube
Actually, it was a Democratic President who got the Civil Rights Act put into effect.

And 40 years ago, it was 1974, and a Republican was in office. Terms like "chains" and "plantation" none of that is going to get Blacks to vote Republican. If anything, it makes you sound extremely ignorant.

Answer this for me. What have Republicans done for Blacks since the 1970s?
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Old 11-09-2014, 12:44 PM
 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BYV...ature=youtu.be

Of blacks who support democrats he says "You put them first and they put you last." Guess that's been happening for a while now then. I'm not saying that he's supporting republicans but damn he's certainly calling democrats out for for who they are and what they've not done.
He also said both parties were basically the same, and that neither party was any good for Blacks.
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