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I do happen to know for a fact that Cisco imports programmers. What makes you think they wouldn't?
For 2014, they submitted only four programmer visas applications. Majority of them were computer scientists, network engineers, and software engineers. I actually saw a few business analysts listed.
I work in the technology industry as well (also teach is academically and am a contributing member of the ACM). I'm surprised that with 25 years of experience you have little knowledge about the field.
Computer science is an academic field of study relating to the furthering of computing technology. IT is the application of such computing technology. An example of CS includes developing an algorithm to multicast encrypted data packets across dense frequencies. An example of IT includes writing a computer program to put together accounting reports or handle financial transactions.
Computer science is certainly not IT. Refer to the ACM and IEEE.
IT=Information Technology. It covers everything relating to........wait for it.......Information Technology. But then again, who gives a rats ass about what you want to call those jobs. I call them what they are called in the field.
IT=Information Technology. It covers everything relating to........wait for it.......Information Technology. But then again, who gives a rats ass.
You must "give a rats ass" since you made this post.
That's like saying that electrician work falls under physics because electricity is part of physics. Sorry, but an electrician is not a physicist just because the wires he hooks up have to do with something discovered in the academic field of physics. The same is true of IT. IT folks are users of technology created by computer scientists. Just because an IT guy knows how to use technology, it doesn't make him/her a computer scientist.
I can understand how this is complicated for those who are not familiar with the field. The ACM doesn't really do anyone favors with the way they have classified IT/CS/CE/IS, etc.
You must "give a rats ass" since you made this post.
That's like saying that electrician work falls under physics because electricity is part of physics. Sorry, but an electrician is not a physicist just because the wires he hooks up have to do with something discovered in the academic field of physics. The same is true of IT. IT folks are users of technology created by computer scientists. Just because an IT guy knows how to use technology, it doesn't make him/her a computer scientist.
I can understand how this is complicated for those who are not familiar with the field. The ACM doesn't really do anyone favors with the way they have classified IT/CS/CE/IS, etc.
I'm a self employed contractor. I use physics daily.
You must "give a rats ass" since you made this post.
That's like saying that electrician work falls under physics because electricity is part of physics. Sorry, but an electrician is not a physicist just because the wires he hooks up have to do with something discovered in the academic field of physics. The same is true of IT. IT folks are users of technology created by computer scientists. Just because an IT guy knows how to use technology, it doesn't make him/her a computer scientist.
I can understand how this is complicated for those who are not familiar with the field. The ACM doesn't really do anyone favors with the way they have classified IT/CS/CE/IS, etc.
BS. I have a degree in computer science, but it doesn't change the fact the IT jobs are called IT jobs, and software engineers, systems analysts, network admins, business intelligence analysts, QA analysts or pretty much any job related to computers or software are called IT jobs in the field. If you want to parrot something you read in some ACM leaflet, then knock yourself out. I call them what they are called in the field.
BS. I have a degree in computer science, but it doesn't change the fact the IT jobs are called IT jobs, and software engineers, systems analysts, network admins, business intelligence analysts, QA analysts or pretty much any job related to computers or software are called IT jobs in the field. If you want to parrot something you read in some ACM leaflet, then knock yourself out. I call them what they are called in the field.
All of those are IT jobs so of course they would be called IT jobs. But not all jobs related to computers or software are called IT jobs. It's a shame that your degree didn't come with an education.
I, too, have a degree in computer science and I've worked for 3 of the companies on that list along with a few others in silicon valley. There's a big difference between an IT software developer and a computer scientist... even in the private sector. It seems like your experience in the field is limited. There's nothing wrong with that.
We've confirmed the answer to your previous question. YOU do give a rats ass.
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