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Old 11-30-2014, 10:09 AM
 
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If Krogers decides that in the grocery industry a dozen means 11, can they start putting 11 donuts in boxes labeled "One Dozen Donuts"?
If Krogers and every other store in the country was selling 11 donuts as one dozen for about a century then yes.
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Old 11-30-2014, 10:13 AM
 
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If Krogers and every other store in the country was selling 11 donuts as one dozen for about a century then yes.
As the industry leaders, why can't they change the industry practice tomorrow?

And why is lying to consumers okay if it's "industry practice" or because it's been done for a long time?
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Old 11-30-2014, 10:14 AM
 
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What is truly ridiculous is I'm going to pay more for lumber to settle this lawsuit.
And the azzhats who brought the lawsuit do not even buy lumber.
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Old 11-30-2014, 10:15 AM
 
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As the industry leaders, why can't they change the industry practice tomorrow?

And why is lying to consumers okay if it's "industry practice" or because it's been done for a long time?
Have you even read the thread?
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Old 11-30-2014, 10:16 AM
 
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Have you even read the thread?
Yes
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Old 11-30-2014, 10:18 AM
 
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If Kroger and Walmart decided that in the grocery industry a dozen means 11, can they start putting 11 donuts in boxes labeled "One Dozen Donuts"?
Is it industry standard? Has it been the industry standard? That is the difference. Lowes and I detest big box store lumber yards, was within the industry standard. Lowes didn't suddenly try to create a new standard or knowingly deviate from the standard and try to cheat a customer. But then you knew this already.
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Old 11-30-2014, 10:20 AM
 
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As the industry leaders, why can't they change the industry practice tomorrow?

And why is lying to consumers okay if it's "industry practice" or because it's been done for a long time?
They didn't lie. The industry standard is that a 2x4 is actually a 1.5 x 3.5. There was no attempt at deceit.
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Old 11-30-2014, 10:24 AM
 
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Is it industry standard? Has it been the industry standard? That is the difference. Lowes and I detest big box store lumber yards, was within the industry standard. Lowes didn't suddenly try to create a new standard or knowingly deviate from the standard and try to cheat a customer. But then you knew this already.
Why is okay for a store to lie to you just because it's been the practice to lie to people for a long time?

If a 1.5'' by 3.5'' piece of lumber is colloquially called a 2X4 in the construction industry, great - include that on the sign or with the advertising - but you should also provide consumers with an accurate description of the product.
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Old 11-30-2014, 10:26 AM
 
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Is it industry standard?
They are the lionshare of the industry - if they decided that tomorrow 1 Dozen Donuts means 11 donuts, isn't that now the industry standard? Can industry standards no longer be set or adjusted - are they frozen in the past?
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Old 11-30-2014, 10:28 AM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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It is common knowledge. I'm 52 years old and it has always been this way. It wasn't false advertising as anyone and everyone knows the actual dimensions of a 2x4, which is the industry standard. Guess what a 2x6 isn't really 2x6 either is 1.5 by 5.5. Care to guess what a 2x12 really is?
You are correct, people use these materials for building, and there is a standard. If you don't know the standard maybe you are the last person who should be doing any building.
Care to guess what a 1X2 really is?
The United States is the most litigious country on the planet and we wonder why it is so screwed up.
That's the problem. Not everyone knows the actual dimensions of a board. There are thousands of do-it-yourself people who decide to fix something themselves for the first time who buy 2x4s every day for the job. Ask a woman what the actual size is; most do not know it, but women buy boards every day too.

Some actually measure the boards, but most don't. That's why actual dimensions are printed on the packaging.

And the standards have shrunk by another 1/4" from what it was 25 years ago. Even an experienced do it yourselfer who hasn't done any work for a long time may be unaware of this.
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