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Old 12-15-2014, 07:29 PM
 
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ahh yes....lets look at a single paragraph from the survey that demonstrates insane cherry picking...

Complete thread fail.

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To address this, we reconstruct the frames of one group of experts who have not received much attention in previous research and yet play a central role in understanding industry responses – professional experts in petroleum and related industries. Not only are we interested in the positions they take towards climate change and in the recommendations for policy development and organizational decision-making that they derive from their framings, but also in how they construct and attempt to safeguard their expert status against others. To gain an understanding of the competing expert claims and to link them to issues of professional resistance and defensive institutional work, we combine insights from various disciplines and approaches: framing, professions literature, and institutional theory.
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Old 12-15-2014, 07:36 PM
 
Location: it depends
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ahh yes....lets look at a single paragraph from the survey that demonstrates insane cherry picking...

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So are you saying that the conflicts of interest inherent in petroleum industry interests are a problem that affects the reliability of the study?

What about the grant money on which AGW proponents depend? Does that not affect their studies?
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Old 12-15-2014, 07:38 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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ahh yes....lets look at a single paragraph from the survey that demonstrates insane cherry picking...

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Typical. You've done this many times. Attack the messenger since you cannot attack the facts.

Post fail.
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Old 12-15-2014, 07:42 PM
 
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Typical. You've done this many times. Attack the messenger since you cannot attack the facts.

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Uhmmm....tell you what, lets ask people who attend church if they believe in god. Then release a study saying 99.99999% of Americans believe in god.

I'm attacking the study, not the messenger in this case. I can't believe you cannot comprehend this.
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Old 12-15-2014, 07:54 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Uhmmm....tell you what, lets ask people who attend church if they believe in god. Then release a study saying 99.99999% of Americans believe in god.

I'm attacking the study, not the messenger in this case. I can't believe you cannot comprehend this.
Over 31,000 scientists signed the OISM Petition Project
The Petition Project features over 31,000 scientists signing the petition stating "there is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide will, in the forseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth's atmosphere".

Over 31,000 scientists signed the OISM Petition Project
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Old 12-15-2014, 08:01 PM
 
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Over 31,000 scientists signed the OISM Petition Project
The Petition Project features over 31,000 scientists signing the petition stating "there is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide will, in the forseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth's atmosphere".

Over 31,000 scientists signed the OISM Petition Project
The 30,000 Global Warming Petition is Easily-Debunked Propaganda | DeSmogBlog

Again a fatally flawed survey.
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Old 12-15-2014, 08:15 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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So "scientists" in the oil industry think AGW is fake and that we all should burn more oil. Sounds legit to me.
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Old 12-15-2014, 08:17 PM
 
Location: Calgary, AB
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To some, a bunch of libertarians mailing a survey to anyone with letters after their name is just like grownup science.
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Old 12-15-2014, 08:22 PM
 
Location: Calgary, AB
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Here's another discussion on the matter, for the curious.

Guest post: scrutinising the 31,000 scientists in the OISM Petition Project

I note the article is dated nearly five years ago. The Oregon Petition lie is so old it has whiskers on it.
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Old 12-15-2014, 08:24 PM
 
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Only the ones who need government funding do, or the ones who work for leftie organizations....where it would be a firable offense to go against the grain.
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