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Old 12-20-2014, 12:09 AM
 
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Anyone who reads the Science doesn't believe in AGW. Lots of people were enrich by this nonsense and it is unfortunate the rest, the uninformed and passionate, were played as fools.
What "Science" are you referring to? Posts on conspiracy blogs or the tabloid rags?
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Old 12-20-2014, 12:18 AM
 
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The Science has been provided by credible sources, again and again, SIB. You are either too biased or too uneducated to understand them. Do you have any scientific credentials, degrees, education or are you just an angry green person and sucker who has enriched Gore, et al.

If you were keeping up, you would be educated....
So you must have read these and all the Journal papers they cite if you have been 'keeping up' and are 'educated' on climate science?

Fifth Assessment Report - Climate Change 2013

Fifth Assessment Report - Impacts, Adaptation and Vulnerability

Fifth Assessment Report - Mitigation of Climate Change


Or is there some other "Science" you are referring to?
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Old 12-20-2014, 12:28 AM
 
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Seabass, you have the background and were trained to read scientific studies, as most of us are in the sciences. I, too, have a hard science background, MS, and think AGW is bunk. Who is right, based on the Science? I think I am and you think you are. We will see, but we know Gore's prognostications about rising sea levels in the US were wrong.
If you think AGW is bunk, then I would suggest that you don't know much about Climate Science at all.

Try reading through all the topics in The Discovery of Global Warming by Physicist Spencer Weart on the American Institute of Physics website. Don't forget to read all the cited papers as well.

The Discovery of Global Warming - A History
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Old 12-20-2014, 02:40 AM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Seabass, you have the background and were trained to read scientific studies, as most of us are in the sciences. I, too, have a hard science background, MS, and think AGW is bunk. Who is right, based on the Science? I think I am and you think you are. We will see, but we know Gore's prognostications about rising sea levels in the US were wrong.
So then tell us what do you think is causing today's warming if not greenhouse gasses?
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Old 12-20-2014, 06:00 AM
 
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Natural forcings alone can't explain the recent rise in global temperatures. It's only when anthropogenic (manmade) forcings are added that the observations match.




From the AR5 WG1 report Ch10 pg 930 Fig 10.21

http://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/assessment-report/ar5/wg1/WG1AR5_Chapter10_FINAL.pdf


Read the whole of the AR5 Working Group I report which presents all the evidence from the work of 1000's of scientists from many years of research:

http://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar5/wg1/

For those who think it's all a big hoax or 'bunk', or isn't supported by overwhelming evidence, then you have may have serious problems with denial and conspiracy ideation.


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Old 12-20-2014, 09:24 AM
 
Location: Austin
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Name one...
Bloomberg, "Wind Power Rivals Coal With $1 Billion Order From Buffett"
By Ehren Goossens Dec 17, 2013 8:40 AM CT
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Old 12-20-2014, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Bloomberg, "Wind Power Rivals Coal With $1 Billion Order From Buffett"
By Ehren Goossens Dec 17, 2013 8:40 AM CT
Ordering a billion dollars worth of wind turbines is not "making billions".....Buffet may very well lose money, and certainly will not make billions.
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Old 12-20-2014, 02:00 PM
 
Location: Central Ohio
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So are you saying that the conflicts of interest inherent in petroleum industry interests are a problem that affects the reliability of the study?

What about the grant money on which AGW proponents depend? Does that not affect their studies?
Big money in them thar carbon credits!

The whole global warming hoax is becoming exposed as the fraud it always has been.
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Old 12-20-2014, 03:05 PM
 
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Big money in them thar carbon credits!

The whole global warming hoax is becoming exposed as the fraud it always has been.
Just like them thar evolution, gravity and 4 and half billion year old earth hoaxes eh?
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Old 12-20-2014, 04:15 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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If it ain't in da bible it is a hoax fur shur.
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