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Old 12-13-2014, 12:04 PM
 
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Small towns can afford expensive entrepreneurial progressive projects like build their own system of electric grids, highspeed bullet trains,

Develop superior healthcare clinics

Build new aircraft, manufacture things themselves and sell to other small towns across the world

How?

At the beginning all the people in the small towns have to mutually agree to work for next to nothing. It is EVERYONE investing their time into what would normally cost a lot of money but instead people are all volunteering to work for the promise of their town's future at which point they will all get the dividends...millions fold higher than the present-day sacrifice

This means raw materials miners find raw materials for free, the architects volunteer time, manufacturers of trains volunteer...an all volunteer effort, perhaps 20 hours of volunteer work per resident per week without pay for the Dream of progress

Then small towns can have what the Federal Govt can't provide and bypassing federal system, US towns can essentially do what the Packers of Green Bay did for that Wisconsin city

This is how we can progress America without Obama!

 
Old 12-13-2014, 12:09 PM
 
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What you do is you have virtual system of all volunteers who put in their 20 hours are equal shareholders of all the profits of the town's future forever after

And in order to compensate for market costs, higher earner volunteers would not need to work as many volunteer hours, but the lowest skilled volunteer roles 20 hours a week

OR alternatively
They work the 20 hours and get to advertise they are doing this to score good Samaritan points
 
Old 12-13-2014, 12:13 PM
 
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And if the federal govt punishes a jurisdiction for not complying with some federal reg by denying grant money, those towns should say "fine we don't need your grants...we have more earning power than you can possibly pay out, by violating your regs
 
Old 12-13-2014, 12:16 PM
 
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My State already did that when they signed The Firearms Freedom Act.
 
Old 12-13-2014, 12:30 PM
 
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Small towns can afford expensive entrepreneurial progressive projects like build their own system of electric grids, highspeed bullet trains,

Develop superior healthcare clinics

Build new aircraft, manufacture things themselves and sell to other small towns across the world

How?

At the beginning all the people in the small towns have to mutually agree to work for next to nothing. It is EVERYONE investing their time into what would normally cost a lot of money but instead people are all volunteering to work for the promise of their town's future at which point they will all get the dividends...millions fold higher than the present-day sacrifice

This means raw materials miners find raw materials for free, the architects volunteer time, manufacturers of trains volunteer...an all volunteer effort, perhaps 20 hours of volunteer work per resident per week without pay for the Dream of progress

Then small towns can have what the Federal Govt can't provide and bypassing federal system, US towns can essentially do what the Packers of Green Bay did for that Wisconsin city

This is how we can progress America without Obama!
So, try it.

Working together toward a common goal is possible - when there is personal reward in it. But you are asking for people to risk their labor for strategies, goals, risks and ideas that are not their own.

It must always be voluntary - that is, you are free to choose to participate and take the risk or not - not forced.

And, you don't quite get it. Small towns don't need bullet trains, and there are those who have their own grids, and even develop their own generation facilities. Superior medical services do not require the labors of everyone in town - they can't even USE the services of all but a tiny few. It only requires the dedication and financial investment of those who provide those services.

And, most places lack the raw resources for materials, etc. They are very thinly scattered.

In the end, it's a dream, and little more. It simply isn't possible to do.
 
Old 12-13-2014, 12:30 PM
 
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Yes, and the idea is you can generate more money internally when you have deregulated freedoms...than that which any authority in the world promises you in exchange for you giving up your freedoms and rights!
 
Old 12-13-2014, 12:38 PM
 
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So, try it.

Working together toward a common goal is possible - when there is personal reward in it. But you are asking for people to risk their labor for strategies, goals, risks and ideas that are not their own.

It must always be voluntary - that is, you are free to choose to participate and take the risk or not - not forced.

And, you don't quite get it. Small towns don't need bullet trains, and there are those who have their own grids, and even develop their own generation facilities. Superior medical services do not require the labors of everyone in town - they can't even USE the services of all but a tiny few. It only requires the dedication and financial investment of those who provide those services.

And, most places lack the raw resources for materials, etc. They are very thinly scattered.

In the end, it's a dream, and little more. It simply isn't possible to do.
It can be done where the people desire and have the will power. It can be done anywhere, regardless of the start point, as long as you have the trades and skills of all the modern jobs that exist globally

Whatever you don't have can be made with volunteer labor. If the issue is land resources, you can network with other little towns that could ....and form underground congruency....non-monetary trading of items for items with the goal being to get the resources needed for both towns to perform.

If there's trade deficits or surpluses, you reallocate profits back to the towns with surplusses from the profits of towns with deficits. Essentially it's capitalistic but deferred payouts on all participaters.
 
Old 12-13-2014, 02:31 PM
 
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Small towns can afford expensive entrepreneurial progressive projects like build their own system of electric grids, highspeed bullet trains,

Develop superior healthcare clinics

Build new aircraft, manufacture things themselves and sell to other small towns across the world

How?

At the beginning all the people in the small towns have to mutually agree to work for next to nothing. It is EVERYONE investing their time into what would normally cost a lot of money but instead people are all volunteering to work for the promise of their town's future at which point they will all get the dividends...millions fold higher than the present-day sacrifice

This means raw materials miners find raw materials for free, the architects volunteer time, manufacturers of trains volunteer...an all volunteer effort, perhaps 20 hours of volunteer work per resident per week without pay for the Dream of progress

Then small towns can have what the Federal Govt can't provide and bypassing federal system, US towns can essentially do what the Packers of Green Bay did for that Wisconsin city

This is how we can progress America without Obama!

You are advocating socialism: a political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.



Where has socialism ever worked out longterm? Nowhere.
 
Old 12-13-2014, 08:33 PM
 
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It can be done where the people desire and have the will power. It can be done anywhere, regardless of the start point, as long as you have the trades and skills of all the modern jobs that exist globally

Whatever you don't have can be made with volunteer labor. If the issue is land resources, you can network with other little towns that could ....and form underground congruency....non-monetary trading of items for items with the goal being to get the resources needed for both towns to perform.

If there's trade deficits or surpluses, you reallocate profits back to the towns with surplusses from the profits of towns with deficits. Essentially it's capitalistic but deferred payouts on all participaters.
You keep skipping the essential word...

VOLUNTARY.

Nothing you are advocating will happen voluntarily. Period. I would never trust the political machine to manage, distribute, innovate, create, or otherwise be wise, prudent, and trustworthy. Ergo, I will never be dumb enough to remain anywhere these schemes become imposed on the population. (nor will any educated person - our life experience shows us that the political is incapable of doing these things... Period.)
 
Old 12-13-2014, 08:47 PM
 
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Small towns can afford expensive entrepreneurial progressive projects like build their own system of electric grids, highspeed bullet trains,

Develop superior healthcare clinics

Build new aircraft, manufacture things themselves and sell to other small towns across the world

How?

At the beginning all the people in the small towns have to mutually agree to work for next to nothing. It is EVERYONE investing their time into what would normally cost a lot of money but instead people are all volunteering to work for the promise of their town's future at which point they will all get the dividends...millions fold higher than the present-day sacrifice

This means raw materials miners find raw materials for free, the architects volunteer time, manufacturers of trains volunteer...an all volunteer effort, perhaps 20 hours of volunteer work per resident per week without pay for the Dream of progress

Then small towns can have what the Federal Govt can't provide and bypassing federal system, US towns can essentially do what the Packers of Green Bay did for that Wisconsin city

This is how we can progress America without Obama!
Most smaller cities do not want to expand in many of those areas by the nature of who is moving there. Most are people looking for less industrialization .Big money second homes and retirees.Most rail is being built to attract people form those areas to large cities. It agreeable to each to keep industry in place in larger cities for their individual reasons.
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