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Old 12-13-2014, 08:13 PM
 
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No, you are not guilty if you are targeted. Unfortunately for you, we are innocent in this country until proven guilty. I'm a conservative and still believe in the principle of "innocent until proven guilty". Sorry if you don't.
Innocent men don't pick up loaded shotguns when he can clearly see and hear who it is busting in.

 
Old 12-13-2014, 08:14 PM
 
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If these go to a jury trial they will most likely be found not guilty. Someday the cops will learn that no knock raids are risky and useless. They need to leave their "macho man" back in the locker room.
 
Old 12-13-2014, 08:15 PM
 
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Innocent men don't pick up loaded shotguns when he can clearly see and hear who it is busting in.
Intelligent cops don't bust down doors for no reason at all.
 
Old 12-13-2014, 08:17 PM
 
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That's because if they do talk instead of busting down the door, the event doesn't result in a shooting. But most SWAT are macho men. Macho men don't talk. They bust down doors.
Talk?

A minute or two wasted has allowed the perp to dispose of or flush the drugs down the toilet, arm himself, barricade or reinforce the door and even perhaps flee out the back door.
 
Old 12-13-2014, 08:21 PM
 
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Talk?

A minute or two wasted has allowed the perp to dispose of or flush the drugs down the toilet, arm himself, barricade or reinforce the door and even perhaps flee out the back door.
So losing some drugs is worse than killing somebody? Your ethics are sub human.
 
Old 12-13-2014, 08:25 PM
 
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So losing some drugs is worse than killing somebody? Your ethics are sub human.
Don't know about you....but the common thing to do when some men with full auto weapons supprize you is to first of all say "oh ***k"!!!

Second would be to find out who they are and what they want.

That would clearly be answered by reading the large print on their body armor. If you are too daft to read....the loud commands "POLICE... SEARCH WARRANT... GET DOWN ON THE GROUND NOW" should suffice.....
 
Old 12-13-2014, 08:57 PM
 
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This happens quite often. SWATs are totally out of control and destroy lives with impunity. LE has an irrational fixation on drug raids. Maybe it's because they want to steal your money.
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David Hooks, the Georgia man killed in a SWAT raid on his East Dublin home in September, was shot in the head and back while face down on the ground, according to his family's attorney, Mitchell Shook, who cited EMS and hospital records as evidence.
Georgia Man Killed in Drug Raid Was Face Down When Shot in Head, Says Family's Lawyer - Hit & Run : Reason.com
Another irrational post; even the link clearly shows is just a claim by biased source. Op has a record of post such claims.
 
Old 12-14-2014, 06:01 AM
 
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Don't know about you....but the common thing to do when some men with full auto weapons supprize you is to first of all say "oh ***k"!!!

Second would be to find out who they are and what they want.
That's a sure way to get killed. People who break down your door are not usually there to talk with you over a cup of coffee.
 
Old 12-14-2014, 06:09 AM
 
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Another irrational post; even the link clearly shows is just a claim by biased source. Op has a record of post such claims.
OK. Here is another source.

Meet 59-year-old David Hooks, the latest drug raid fatality - The Washington Post

Did you read this?

The toxic combination of a "five year-old uncorroborated tip," a vague accusation from a confessed car thief and meth addict, and a recently robbed man reacting to a violent intrusion on his home created the conditions that led to the 17 shots fired by law enforcement that night.

and this;

deputies spent 44 hours searching Hooks’s home for drugs — yet they found nothing.


No drugs. No knock. Nothing to indicate they announced that they were cops. Busting down the back door without warning. Relying on a drug addict and thief for a tip. Relying on a five year old uncorroborated tip. Yes, that sounds like your favorite cops just doing their job.
 
Old 12-14-2014, 06:14 AM
 
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That would clearly be answered by reading the large print on their body armor. If you are too daft to read....the loud commands "POLICE... SEARCH WARRANT... GET DOWN ON THE GROUND NOW" should suffice.....
Nothing I've seen says they said anything about being police or having a search warrant or wearing large print on their body armor. Where did you read that?
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