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Is that the long way to say blacks suffer from Post Traumatic Slave Syndrome.
'The slavery makes us do it.'
Is that the short way of saying "get a job" or "quit crying"? The disparity between black and white success can't be ignored especially when so many cases go against the stereotypical reasoning. What's to say then? "Get over it"? Blacks in a majority white country is like Christians in a majority Muslim country. Of course the odds are against them. The only difference is the Christians came willingly, The blacks did not. You don't believe there's a racial issue in America? That's like saying there is no crime. There is racists in America with racist agendas. A large percentage of these racist will inevitably affect the smaller minority. That's DIRECT effect. It started with slavery but never ended. Try telling the rape victim to just get over it. Theres black accountability but never whites?
Is that the short way of saying "get a job" or "quit crying"? The disparity between black and white success can't be ignored especially when so many cases go against the stereotypical reasoning. What's to say then? "Get over it"? Blacks in a majority white country is like Christians in a majority Muslim country. Of course the odds are against them. The only difference is the Christians came willingly, The blacks did not. You don't believe there's a racial issue in America? That's like saying there is no crime. There is racists in America with racist agendas. A large percentage of these racist will inevitably affect the smaller minority. That's DIRECT effect. It started with slavery but never ended. Try telling the rape victim to just get over it. Theres black accountability but never whites?
No, it was my way of asking if your couple hundred words boiled down to Post Traumatic Slave Syndrome.
Hang in there a while longer. I'm confident in predicting that within 5-20 years PTSS will be taught in the schools and be a recognized mental disorder.
White ancestors are the main culprits responsible for black destabilization in America plain and simple.
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This!
Is why there is so much black crime, despair, suicide, and ghetto behavior.
When you insist that some unchangeable past event with no bearing, relationship, effect, meaning, importance, or reason for the behavior of the present, you are purposely attempting to prevent the realization of the actual problems. Blaming what's not at fault and focusing solely on that, is how you forever continue the problem and forever continue the industry of race baiting.
Makes your on wealth......you will never get a dime from me.
Right now our wealth is being redistributed. That is why so many complain about liberalism and what it has done to Black 'responsibility'. People are already getting your 'dime'. As more robotics take our jobs and human jobs evaporate; how do you think people can live? Our entire economic system will be in peril.
My feeling is that it does nobody any good to just sit and get paid. We need the physical exercise - no matter how much we complain. We should have national debates on how to resolve these problems - without just having the upper half of the one percent deciding for us.
Right now our wealth is being redistributed. That is why so many complain about liberalism and what it has done to Black 'responsibility'. People are already getting your 'dime'. As more robotics take our jobs and human jobs evaporate; how do you think people can live? Our entire economic system will be in peril.
My feeling is that it does nobody any good to just sit and get paid. We need the physical exercise - no matter how much we complain. We should have national debates on how to resolve these problems - without just having the upper half of the one percent deciding for us.
I really do not think anyone is taking my "dime".
I spend my money as I want to.
Unless you mean our dollars being worth less........that I would agree with.
From "American Ideologies" by Kenneth and Patricia Dolbeare
To understand the true nature of American society and for blacks to understand ourselves as a group is to view America in a historical context. Malcolm X and other black leaders in the Civil Rights era came to see that the United States as a racist and exploitative nation and viewed black people as a colonial subjects of white rulers located within the hostile mother country. Malcolm X and other's worldview was that individual acts of racism were less important than "institutional racism", the societal practices and procedures, widely accepted or condoned by whites, that systematically maintained blacks as a group in a permanently deprived state. Stokely Carmichael and Charles Hamilton said that there was three things of black-white relationships that made up colonial status for blacks.
The political powerlessness of blacks. Whites, they asserted, have always made the blacks political decisions for them. Though the manipulation of political boundaries (Gerrymandering), indirect rule, and terrorism, blacks have been systematically denied power. The latest example would be the push for voter ID laws even though voter fraud is close to non existent. Even in areas where blacks constitute a majority of the population, whites have usually controlled them through cooperation of elected blacks, who operate in the best interest of whites.
Like colonial subjects , blacks have been economically exploited. As workers they were assigned the most menial jobs and paid the lowest wages. The meager housing business resources of the ghetto community are owned by white absentees who drain the profits back to white communities. Like all colonies, the black ghetto exists for the chief purpose of enriching the colonizer ; it is maintained by the white banking and credit system backed up by white police forces.
Blacks in America resemble oppressed colonials because they are assigned socially inferior status as a group.. The colonial social structure acts to convince native colonials of their inferiority, deriding their values and traditions and destroying their family or tribal structures. The movie "Claudine" and Curtis Mayfield's song "Welfare" sung by Gladys Knights illustrates this point. The structure incentivized mothers to be unwed and single to receive government benefits. When you destroy the family unit you destroy the community and ultimately the nation. Because blacks were bought were bought to the United States as slaves and denied respect as people, they too had come to doubt their self worth as human beings. The mark of of colonial subjects is that they have succumbed to myths of their own inferiority and been led to self hatred. You have books such as " The Bell Curve" written by whites as to shift accountability from institution racism and to reinforce white superiority ideology.
From this colonial analogy came an international perspective. The United States and its associated capitalism was seen not only as an oppressor of American blacks but as the exploiter of Third World nations as a whole. Also from the colonial analogy was the recognition of the importance of creating a sense of black identity and selfhood , throwing off the white supremacy attitudes that many blacks had unconsciously internalized. Carmichael and Hamilton asserted that it was essential for blacks to reclaim their history and identity, to struggle for the right of self-definition, " to create our own terms through which to define ourselves and our relationship to society, and to have those terms recognized." The " Natural" or Afro hair style was a social political statement emphasizing this reclamation of the right of self-definition and throwing off the unconscious internalized self hatred of black hair in which people would try to straighten it as to achieve an European notion of beauty. They emphasized the distinctive forms that black communities should aspire to, organize around a true concept of humanity and brotherhood rather than a competitive struggle for material goods. "Reorientation," they write means an emphasis on the dignity of man, not on the sanctity of property."
Socialists see racism pre-dating capitalism, but now inextricably bound up with it as one of its functional but personally destructive features. To be a socialist is not to reject one's minority identity but to carry it forward in a merger with all others that creates a new human identity in which all races and sexes are as one. James and Grace Lee Boggs's book " Revolution and Evolution in the Twentieth Century" states that one's identity should be in a new definition of identity which requires the intervention and the creation of other kinds of human beings, human beings that define their identity and conceive their human dignity in terms of social responsibility rather that in terms of material and/or ethnic interests.
Seeing that the Black ideology and the community was headed towards revolutionary socialism opposed to capitalist ideology President Nixon decided to counteract that with "Black Enterprise" as to draw black supporters away. Affirmative action was begun under Nixon for this purpose, not to redress past wrongs. The purpose of Affirmative action, Quotas, Welfare was to draw black support from revolutionary socialism which was espoused by the exploding in popularity Black Panther party . Not only content with drawing supporters away from a new minority ideology to support for the dominant Capitalist-Liberal ideology, its purpose was also was to create a reaction and backlash by right wing scapegoating whites such as Rush Limbaugh looking to create divisions among the populace along ethnic terms for the benefit of keeping the proletariat divided as so big business interests and Wall Street can impose a Neo-Liberal agenda that delivers submarginal austerity, whether through unemployment, reduced wages/pensions,, intensification of the pace of production (speedup), inflation, reduced public services, privatization of public assets such as roads, parking, water and sewage, Globalism/sweatshops, etc or all of the above for the benefit of big business interests and international banks lead by Wall Street. For the present social order of capitalism in the United States to continue a social order in which a coherent combination of culture, ideology, intellectual currents, social movements, and political organization that supports the state practicing extensive social control for the benefit of big business interests and finance. What we see now is total manipulation from above with acquiescence, divisiveness,and or helplessness from below. Fascism will be instituted by and for big business and finance, gradually at first, from the top down. Under cover of apparent crisis and necessity (War on Terror, Sub prime mortgage/ Derivatives collapse) forces perceived as legitimate under the circumstances will act to consolidate it further (Patriot Act , Surveillance and Security State). The goal is total management of all aspects of economic and social life, so that a steadily lower standard of living can be enforced on people without provoking unmanageable social unrest.
one has to accept responsibility for ones actions. if one is always looking to government to solve their problems, they are going to be sorely disappointed, and will never get anywhere in life. if one wants to be successful in life, they have to take life by the horns and make it do what they want, not what others want for them.
That is a great theory. Unfortunately in America today, very few people accept responsibility for their actions. Look at this thread -- blame is the overriding theme. Conservatives blame liberals for everything. Obama is blamed. Bush is blamed. Liberals blame the burgeoning oligarchy in the US. In government, Republicans blame the Dems and the Dems blame the Republican. White men and Christians (who are both members of a majority in this country) claim to be victims, while chastising others for not accepting responsibility. NOBODY in this country is accepting responsibility for anything. Nothing is anyone's fault, but everything is someone else's fault.
Pointing fingers resolves nothing (nnd I am guilty, as well--I've always blamed Iraq on Bush/Cheney). It is an extremely non-productive and self-centered method of analysis of society's problem. None of the problems in this country will every be resolved if there is no dialog, and that just is not happening. There is only blame and orders reegarding how others should behave.
Is why there is so much black crime, despair, suicide, and ghetto behavior.
When you insist that some unchangeable past event with no bearing, relationship, effect, meaning, importance, or reason for the behavior of the present, you are purposely attempting to prevent the realization of the actual problems. Blaming what's not at fault and focusing solely on that, is how you forever continue the problem and forever continue the industry of race baiting.
In short..basically the reply is....its so much deeper..we are not blaming slavery, but the EFFECTS of slavery that lingered on til this day and is going on right now....NOW not only then...but now....it started with slavery...it never ended there.
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you are purposely attempting to prevent the realization of the actual problems.
but its so funny...you are the only one thats actually doing that...that is the irony of the situation...
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From "American Ideologies" by Kenneth and Patricia Dolbeare
