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Old 01-07-2015, 09:10 PM
 
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Its the French what do you expect; they long ago surrender freedom of speech. Really it started in the mid 60's when people started calling for violence. They attack the speech and not the violent people as always. Its called civilized behavior which is getting less common.
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Old 01-07-2015, 09:49 PM
 
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yes, it could and already has.
Really? In what american jurisdiction is there a fine for saying that muslim culture is replacing american culture?

And how do all these people who criticize islam so frequently here on C-D afford all those fines?
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Old 01-07-2015, 09:53 PM
 
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If right-wingers keep it up, freedom of speech will die in America.

Just look at how they react to protesters...


OK, who, what, when and where?
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Old 01-07-2015, 10:04 PM
 
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The French Constitution and the American Constitution are quite different from one another.

And France has always had a more restrictive view of freedom of speech. In part, from their desire to keep their language "pure", their laws have always been far more restrictive.

So, no, the incidents you've cited could not happen here.

Hmm..."pure", kinda like newspeak.

Well, that`s double-plus good!
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Old 01-07-2015, 10:11 PM
 
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Completely irrelevant.

The discussion is about French laws and free speech.

Much as you'd like to demonize Muslims, that's not the topic on this thread.


Here`s the title again for those who can`t seem to remember what the thread is about...

"Free speech dead in France- $5,000 fine for saying Muslim culture is slowly "replacing" French culture"
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Old 01-07-2015, 10:16 PM
 
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[quote=DC at the Ridge;37895221]No, but French laws that were originally based on keeping the language pure gave the French government much more power to regulate free speech. Our Constitution and our laws do not provide such precedent for laws restricting American free speech.[/quote]


No, but it doesn`t seem to take much precedent either.
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Old 01-08-2015, 07:32 AM
 
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The entire European continent is full of wussies.
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Old 01-08-2015, 07:40 AM
 
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No, but French laws that were originally based on keeping the language pure gave the French government much more power to regulate free speech. Our Constitution and our laws do not provide such precedent for laws restricting American free speech.[/quote]


No, but it doesn`t seem to take much precedent either.

It all went haywire when Precedent law, replaced Constitutional law.
Legislating from the bench, began.
Laws were changed by one man judges, not legislation.
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Old 01-08-2015, 07:49 AM
 
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The entire European continent is full of wussies.
I wouldn't call Europe weak but cautious, maybe to a fault. After all, WWII was fought on their soil, not ours so there are far more reminders of the devastation in Europe then we have in the US. Plus we have a pretty big ocean seperating us from the Middle East, which Europe does not.
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Old 01-08-2015, 07:50 AM
 
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I wouldn't call Europe weak but cautious, maybe to a fault. After all, WWII was fought on their soil, not ours so there are far more reminders of the devastation in Europe then we have in the US. Plus we have a pretty big ocean seperating us from the Middle East, which Europe does not.
They are wussies plain and simple. They are scared of their own shadows over there.
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