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Old 01-07-2015, 09:59 AM
 
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You are wrong on this. It is SS that is easier to acquire. SS is welfare, SSDI is Social Security Disability Income in which the worker pays for and can lose if they stop working for X amount of years. It is hard to qualify for SSDI unless you have a verifiable terminal condition, was a recent worker. I've seen first hand how difficult it is for a working disable, very ill person to qualify for SSDI. Not easy in the slightest and for most can take years to acquire.
Where do you get your information?

SS is "easier" to acquire?? SS is "welfare"? Do you know what payroll FICA deductions cover? Do you understand what qualifies one to collect SS? Obviously you don't know about SSI.
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Old 01-07-2015, 10:02 AM
 
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It's a noted fact that applications for SSDI spike when we have recessions and increased unemployment.
Relaxing the definition of disability has also helped millions more get on the rolls.
Anyone can apply for SSDI, anyone. Most are denied, and that means most 90%+. Just because the people applied does not mean millions where added to SSDI rolls. Many of those that were added were denied benefits for years, and should not have been denied. One other thing to realize is boomers are getting older and many are falling apart as humans unfortunately do.
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Old 01-07-2015, 10:04 AM
 
Location: Central Ohio
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It's about SSDI, not SS.

And the SSDI program is RAMPANT with fraud with so many people seeking this to tide them over .
Yes those on SSDI should get 20% cuts. Let them go look for a job instead.
Yes, it is a strengthening of social security and a weakening of the welfare system. Lazy non working types have a reason to be upset.
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Old 01-07-2015, 10:06 AM
 
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Where do you get your information?

SS is "easier" to acquire?? SS is "welfare"? Do you know what payroll FICA deductions cover? Do you understand what qualifies one to collect SS? Obviously you don't know about SSI.
Supplemental Security Income. I know what it is. Its a welfare program that is state and federally run. Its monthly payout is about $700 a month and if one has assets one can forget about it. I've worked for 40 years and dutifully paid my FICA taxes for years. A few years ago my wife of 30 years became very ill and is on Medicare and SSDI. Does that answer your question?
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Old 01-07-2015, 10:07 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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Republicans have been trying to bring down Social Security for decades.

Big business hates Social Security. The elderly aren't cheap labor and take up tax money. Big business wants the elderly to hurry up and die.
Democrats have been trying to bring down Social Security for decades.

Big business hates Social Security. The elderly aren't cheap labor and take up tax money. Big business wants the elderly to hurry up and die. And we all know how the Democrats love to get in bed with Big Business.
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Old 01-07-2015, 10:09 AM
 
Location: Anchorage, Alaska
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You are wrong on this. It is SS that is easier to acquire. SS is welfare, SSDI is Social Security Disability Income in which the worker pays for and can lose if they stop working for X amount of years. It is hard to qualify for SSDI unless you have a verifiable terminal condition, was a recent worker. I've seen first hand how difficult it is for a working disable, very ill person to qualify for SSDI. Not easy in the slightest and for most can take years to acquire.
It took years for my mother to get SSDI for her crippling arthritis. Years and finally a call to Congressman Owens before she was approved.
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Old 01-07-2015, 10:11 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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[quote=jmking;37920728]Supplemental Security Income. I know what it is. Its a welfare program that is state and federally run.

total lie. It's a retirement funding program with some socialist aspects.

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Its monthly payout is about $700 a month
Another total lie. Payout depends primarily on what you pay in.

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and if one has assets one can forget about it.
Another total lie. Payout has nothing to do with your assets.

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Does that answer your question?
Yes. It tells me you know nothing about the SS retirement plan.
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Old 01-07-2015, 10:14 AM
 
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Supplemental Security Income. I know what it is. Its a welfare program that is state and federally run. Its monthly payout is about $700 a month and if one has assets one can forget about it. I've worked for 40 years and dutifully paid my FICA taxes for years. A few years ago my wife of 30 years became very ill and is on Medicare and SSDI. Does that answer your question?
So based on your definition of SS (and SSDI), you are on welfare.
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Old 01-07-2015, 10:14 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Anyone can apply for SSDI, anyone. Most are denied, and that means most 90%+. Just because the people applied does not mean millions where added to SSDI rolls. Many of those that were added were denied benefits for years, and should not have been denied. One other thing to realize is boomers are getting older and many are falling apart as humans unfortunately do.
You need to go do a bit more reading.

Congress laxed what qualifies for SSDI my friend.
And it's typical that you get denied 3 times and then approved.

Third time it goes to a judge and these lawyers know exactly what judge they want hearing the claim..the ones with 100% approval records.



High Approvals From Judge Deciding Social Security Disability Claims
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Old 01-07-2015, 10:16 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Supplemental Security Income. I know what it is. Its a welfare program that is state and federally run. Its monthly payout is about $700 a month and if one has assets one can forget about it. I've worked for 40 years and dutifully paid my FICA taxes for years. A few years ago my wife of 30 years became very ill and is on Medicare and SSDI. Does that answer your question?
It's not state run at all.
Assets have no play in your SS payments..it's income that plays here.
Payout is based on what you paid into it.

It certainly answered the question that you do not know about SS.
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