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Satirizing an icon or figure is not in any way equal to destruction of a country's flag.
Flags are powerful symbols of countries. Burning any country's flag is indicative of a desire to destroy that country. I have no problem with people wearing flags as shirts, pants, etc. or decoration.
But burning is very symbolic of destruction or death, such as the Klan burning crosses, etc.
From the point of view of the person who believes it is.
it like if you go out a start posting those pictures of Obama as a monkey; you might get your nose punched. Too many have fought for that flag to see some bum burn it.
it like if you go out a start posting those pictures of Obama as a monkey; you might get your nose punched. Too many have fought for that flag to see some bum burn it.
Yes, but they fought for our freedom and the freedom to burn the flag. You and I may not like it but freedom includes freedom to burn the flag and freedom to mock whatever religion we choose to mock. Our soldiers did not fight for freedom to discuss the weather.
So basically in France if you were to draw a gas chamber and write above "Did they really exist ?" you'd be fined big time and your drawing couldn't be published
There is often a debate on this issue but I think it is a good thing
Also there can't be a nazi party or party with racist ideas in France, that would be illegal. Good thing too in my book.
But one could argue that the line is sometimes hard to define ... Drawing Muhammed is not hate speech or racist but in other cases it can be hard to tell if one is just making fun or actually disguising hateful sentiments in something that can be interpreted as a joke
I think this is a really difficult distinction to make. Not being able to discuss Nazi Germany in a historical context for fear of being arrested in a bad thing. It shuts down the exchange of ideas and history, no matter how ugly, is something that needs to be discussed and questioned. Satire can be racist - cartoons of President Obama as a monkey for example. IMO, the line is crossed when speech promotes active discrimination and/or violence.
I think this is a really difficult distinction to make. Not being able to discuss Nazi Germany in a historical context for fear of being arrested in a bad thing. It shuts down the exchange of ideas and history, no matter how ugly, is something that needs to be discussed and questioned. Satire can be racist - cartoons of President Obama as a monkey for example. IMO, the line is crossed when speech promotes active discrimination and/or violence.
To be fair, Nazi's have a very bad rep in France, still to this day. Probably be another 50 years before anybody laughs at Nazi jokes in France.
But it's unnecessary and so inflationary that whatever point you're trying to make will be lost in the argument. It'll become all about burning the flag.
It's stupid and in poor taste.
True dat.
After flag burning # 123, 562, it has kind of lost its impact.
Some conservatives admit that flag burning is protected by the first amendment. Bill O'Reilly for one. And I would think that anyone claiming to be a Libertarian like Rand Paul would agree.
"Some conservatives admit that flag burning is protected by the first amendment".
They don't. While I don't like burning our flag, it is and should be a legal act of free speech.
I guess your post is pure bunk.
Please explain how taking an action is considered speech.
I know the courts have ruled it as such. That is NOT my concern at the moment. Just, how are actions speech?
IMO, it is a form of expression. I can't find anything in the Constitution about "freedom of expresion"
IMO, it is just another example of the courts redefining what the Constitution days.
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