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I don't think that any entity, other than individual persons, should be able to give money to political campaigns. And those individual donations should be capped. Political affiliation has nothing to do with it.
This has NOTHING to do with money gave to political campaigns. There are strict regulations concerning that since before C.U. and they were not changed with C.U.
A corporation is a person the moment it can be sentenced to death for murder. Let me know when we execute a corporation for murder.
We were suppose to send it (the representative) to prison for the corporation falsifying documents under Sarbane/Oxley but the politicians conveniently forgot that was a law.
He's absolutely right. It was an atrocious decision by the right-wing corrupted Supreme Court, and it undermines our democracy. How in the world can you Republicans say this is how this country should work?
Which means that Democrats are really only angry about the Citizens United decision because it erased their virtual monopoly in fund raising via organized labor contributions. The logic applied some how justifies contributions of organized labor, because they represent the workers. It doesn't matter if the rank and file union members approve of the candidate or not. Now that the Evil Corporations can donate in kind, it is unfair, atrocious, and corrupt.
Same logic that allowed Debbie Wasserman-Schultz to attack Romney in 2012 for having money parked in the same Cayman Island institutions she did. Same logic that was behind Pelosi attacking Romney for "outsourcing" while she held a significant financial stake in ModusLink Global. The very same firm she attacked Romney for.
Which means that Democrats are really only angry about the Citizens United decision because it erased their virtual monopoly in fund raising via organized labor contributions. The logic applied some how justifies contributions of organized labor, because they represent the workers. It doesn't matter if the rank and file union members approve of the candidate or not. Now that the Evil Corporations can donate in kind, it is unfair, atrocious, and corrupt.
Same logic that allowed Debbie Wasserman-Schultz to attack Romney in 2012 for having money parked in the same Cayman Island institutions she did. Same logic that was behind Pelosi attacking Romney for "outsourcing" while she held a significant financial stake in ModusLink Global. The very same firm she attacked Romney for.
George Bush signed the stupid law and it was John McCain that pushed so hard for it. The only reason the GOP didn't stomp their feet over the decision more than they did was because Obama was currently the president and he didn't like the decision. If McCain had won you can bet he would have blown his top. (not that there is much left there to blow)
The Citizens United case, which is the topic of the discussion, has nothing to do with murder.
If you want to undo the CU decision because businesses can't be prosecuted for murder, I'm perfectly willing to compromise on that. All you have to do is agree that businesses shouldn't be taxed, and I'll be right by your side.
But as long as my business gets a tax bill every year, then I'm going to argue that it (and any other business) should have as much say in who's governing it as I do. I would even go so far as to say that my business, which is a separate legal entity from me and which pays taxes separately, should also have a vote.
Then I guess a business should be allowed to be sentenced to death for murder. Would be fun trying to see how we would go about executing an entire company and everyone inside it.
This has NOTHING to do with money gave to political campaigns. There are strict regulations concerning that since before C.U. and they were not changed with C.U.
Special interest groups are the one's running the ads. These groups may not be on paper tied to the campaigns but they are often run by the same people and consultants working for a campaign. 401c4's super PACs and such are used as tools to get around individual campaign giving regulations. Those contributions should be capped, come directly from individuals, and made transparent as well.
Special interest groups are the one's running the ads. These groups may not be on paper tied to the campaigns but they are often run by the same people and consultants working for a campaign. 401c4's super PACs and such are used as tools to get around individual campaign giving regulations. Those contributions should be capped, come directly from individuals, and made transparent as well.
It's NONE of your business how a group of people want to spend their money. There are very valid reasons why someone would want to remain anonymous when wandering into the political swamp. We have seen a willingness to use the IRS by politicians to punish those that would dare cross them.
It's NONE of your business how a group of people want to spend their money. There are very valid reasons why someone would want to remain anonymous when wandering into the political swamp. We have seen a willingness to use the IRS by politicians to punish those that would dare cross them.
So, buying an election and influence through anonymous means is somehow healthy for democracy? Is your influence on government an individual less valuable than that of a billionaire, or a corporation?
A corporation is a person the moment it can be sentenced to death for murder. Let me know when we execute a corporation for murder.
Many members of corporations, unions, nonprofits, have been sentenced for crimes. And corporations have been fined and sued many times. just because you can not physically imprison something does not mean it does not have a right to representation esp. if you are taxing it.
This goes to the core of what this country was founded on, Taxation without representation.
If you don't want corporations to be treated as people then stop taxing them, tax the owners and or members.
bill
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