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View Poll Results: Death Penalty Vs. Solitary confinement
Death Penalty 25 44.64%
Solitary confinement 16 28.57%
Have em both 15 26.79%
Voters: 56. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 01-24-2015, 02:28 PM
 
Location: Northville, MI
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Would you rather have your state spend money on death penalty, or use 30+ years of solitary confinement to punish its most notorious criminals.

I'm gonna go with solitary. Most notorious criminals take up high risk tasks knowing they will be killed by someone one fine day. They don't fear death, so why would death penalty even act as a deterrent ?

Forcing them into a isolated dark cell to rethink their horrific deeds in hunger is the right thing to do. Knowing that they will be tortured on a daily basis for lifetime, people will shy away from committing such crimes in future.

Share your thoughts.

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Old 01-24-2015, 03:13 PM
 
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I don't think the United States can place a criminal in a dark cell for however many years. I doubt we could let them go hungry either and I know all heck would break loose if they were tortured on a daily basis. Every human rights group in the US would be shouting at the top of their lungs all the way to the Supreme Court.

I have never been to a prison, just read books and watched TV. I am sure things happen in prisons, that we law abiding citizens don't really want to know about. For problem prisoners I am sure they have some sort of solitary confinement but I don't think many could take 30+ years in a dark cell, hungry and tortured without totally cracking up. Then they would have to be moved to an insane facility crazy as bedbugs still on the taxpayers dime.

Our justice systems works, most of the time anyway.
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Old 01-24-2015, 04:18 PM
 
Location: Northville, MI
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I don't think the United States can place a criminal in a dark cell for however many years. I doubt we could let them go hungry either and I know all heck would break loose if they were tortured on a daily basis. Every human rights group in the US would be shouting at the top of their lungs all the way to the Supreme Court.

I have never been to a prison, just read books and watched TV. I am sure things happen in prisons, that we law abiding citizens don't really want to know about. For problem prisoners I am sure they have some sort of solitary confinement but I don't think many could take 30+ years in a dark cell, hungry and tortured without totally cracking up. Then they would have to be moved to an insane facility crazy as bedbugs still on the taxpayers dime.

Our justice systems works, most of the time anyway.
NY state has disciplinary solitary confinement to replace death penalty, and it has been effective in reducing crime, although I have no Idea what happens behind those walls. Several prisons are shutting down, due to low occupancy.
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Old 01-25-2015, 06:59 PM
 
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if they would actually make prison bad for these guys I would be fine with it. since they get to live a life of relative luxury we might as well speed up the executions. no point in paying for room and board, medical, and who knows what else for 25-30 years
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Old 01-26-2015, 07:47 AM
 
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Solitary confinment is in my book "cruel and unusual punishment" : one of the reasons (not the only one) I'm for the death penalty is that some of the alternatives are less humane still. And I'm against the mosaic (talmud) more of "an eye for an eye and a teeth for a teeth". I'm for severe, dissuasive punishment, but remaining into the frame of a civilized society. I acknowledge it's a difficult balancing act.
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Old 01-26-2015, 04:16 PM
 
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NY state has disciplinary solitary confinement to replace death penalty, and it has been effective in reducing crime, although I have no Idea what happens behind those walls. Several prisons are shutting down, due to low occupancy.
NY is closing prisons, that is true. But it's not because solitary is reducing crime.. It's because they are sentencing fewer people to prison.

New York releases details on plans to close 4 prisons, including 1 in Wayne County | syracuse.com

Drug offenders are, I'd say properly, being routed to treatment and alternative sentencing options rather than being sent to prison. At least first timers.

Disciplinary solitary is something that is utilized by prison administrators.. No one is ever sentenced to solitary. So, you could be correct by saying that solitary reduces crimes committed by people in prison.
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Old 01-28-2015, 05:14 PM
 
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Neither one.
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Old 01-28-2015, 07:30 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Death penalty. The money to keep these scumbags in prison is WAY TOO MUCH !!
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Old 01-28-2015, 07:33 PM
 
Location: Palmer/Fishhook, Alaska
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I'm not in favor of spending tax dollars for free medical care and three hots and a cot for some child-killing scumbag when there are hard working members of the working poor and their families going without medical care.

But I don't think the sanitized version of the death penalty we have now is appropriate, either.

They should reserve the electric chair for the real doozies, at least.
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Old 01-30-2015, 01:26 AM
 
Location: Tucson/Nogales
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I once read a true crime book, of someone who got the death penalty in NV, and he wanted no delays whatsoever, kill me now!

Well, well, well! Ever heard the term Job Security?

The other inmates on Death Row and guards made his life a living hell until he relented to the numerous appeals which can last a whole decade or more! He couldn't take the torture anymore!

30+ years in solitary confinement to give them time to think things over? 30 days, isn't that enough torture?

And, with how many being released from prisons today due to DNA clearance, would anyone want that on their conscience, to subject someone to this, and they finally walk some day, totally insane as a result of it, walking our streets?
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