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She looks amazing and even someone in my office stated "wow she looks better then me", well with a make over like that with their money anything is possible and just like the most of us she will not get up and look like this but I'm glad Bruce is happy and looks like this and not like Mrs Doubtfire.
You see that conservatives can be from all different backgrounds, religions, races, genders.
They are GROWN. Jenner deserves the chance to be happy.
The kids screw up their own lives without any help from Jenner or anyone else.
Do you have kids? First of all, the girls are not "GROWN". Sorry, they're not.
Kids LOVE their parents; they never stop. Yes, I believe he is being selfish. He left one family and had little to do with his sons when they needed him. They probably STILL need a father.
One can be happy without leaving a path of destruction in their wake. Make no mistake, that's exactly what he has done. IF he truly knew he had all these many issues, perhaps birth control should have been considered.
I think this is where I land. I understand that there is internal confusion and frustration, but I believe your gender doesn't change, especially not simply because you want it to.
Ya'll are all mixed up. Gender is who you go to sleep AS. Jenner identifies as a woman, has for a long time. Jenner has said he felt he was female ever since he could remember and is now able to live his life authentically, as a female. Because we don't understand it doesn't change the legitimacy of the issue for Jenner and other similar people.
Gender identity
The term "gender identity," distinct from the term "sexual orientation," refers to a person's innate, deeply felt psychological identification as a man, woman or some other gender, which may or may not correspond to the sex assigned to them at birth (e.g., the sex listed on their birth certificate).
Looks pretty darned good. Will be interesting to see normal day to day pictures. Many pictures of Bruce/Caitlyn look like he is perpetually in a grouchy mood, lol. The Vanity Fair cover is very flattering though.
I am 61, old-fashioned, and going out on a limb here, but I think this whole thing is really disgusting.
Before I continue, I have nothing against TRUE transgenders, transsexuals, homosexuals, bisexuals, or anyone living a sex life different from the norm. However, I just doubt very much that Caitlyn-formerly-known-as-Bruce was/is truly transgender because if s/he felt s/he were really and truly female (on the "inside at least) from at least adolescence, how could s/he have fathered six natural children (unless they were adopted or a result of IVF or some other scientific procedure, which I did not see noted in the Wikipedia bio)? Unless I am mistaken, this means that he had to have have been aroused by his wives to the point of having more than one erection during the course of his adult life.
If someone truly is born with some kind of gender "mistake", I am sincerely sorry, and I have pity for that person. But I just don't see how that could have been the case with Bruce/Caitlyn. I just think is just one seriously messed up dude/dudette and that s/he was very selfish to put his/her kids and wife through his/her transformation and all the accompanying publicity.
If anyone wants to educate me, fine. I readily admit that I am VERY far from an expert on this topic.
You are confusing sexuality and gender identity. VERY different and separate issues.
Ya'll are all mixed up. Gender is who you go to sleep AS. Jenner identifies as a woman, has for a long time. Jenner has said he felt he was female ever since he could remember and is now able to live his life authentically, as a female. Because we don't understand it doesn't change the legitimacy of the issue for Jenner and other similar people.
Gender identity
The term "gender identity," distinct from the term "sexual orientation," refers to a person's innate, deeply felt psychological identification as a man, woman or some other gender, which may or may not correspond to the sex assigned to them at birth (e.g., the sex listed on their birth certificate).
You are confusing gender identity with gender.
Gender identity is what you call yourself.
Gender is what your chromosomes say you are.
"What does it mean when we talk about sexuality in these terms? Normally, when we talk about sexuality we are talking about people's biological sexes. A gay person is in a "same-sex relationship." Someone who is heterosexual is often defined as someone who is attracted to the "opposite" sex. (The discussion of the word "opposite" to come another day). However, we are simultaneously talking about people's gender because we typically conflate these categories.
What would it mean for a transgender person to be straight? Well, in my mind it would mean that the person identifies as one gender (as a man, for example) and is attracted to a different gender (women)."
So, because Jenner identifies as a woman and is attracted to women, that means that he is actually homosexual?
Sorry, but I still think that is SERIOUSLY messed up!
What an insult to women that HE is being referred to as a "she" or "woman." I don't care if he has facial reconstruction, he is still a man. Nonsense.
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