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Here's where you've gone off track: "how about those apparent spittle-spewing "Bushaphobes" still sore after his winning twice and now six years gone from office?"
Now granted, there was plenty of whining when he won in 2000. Not from me. I voted for him then.
The continued animosity towards Dubya has everything to do with his record of two idiotically mismanaged and lost wars coupled with the worst economic collapse in three generations. He came into office with a prosperous America at peace. He left an unprecedented disaster in his wake.
Obama inherited the Bush mess. With two years left in his second term, the jury is still out. But all indications are that he'll leave the USA in much better shape than he received it.
That's not an entirely inaccurate method to judge a chief executive's performance.
Since the all-time record Bush deficit in 2009, it has fallen each year.
You are aware that the budget for fiscal year 2009 was from Bush's last year.
Carry on.
And you live in Texas? Oh My.
Yes, he is a Communist Dictator, as well as a Wimp and a Tyrant. He also does trample all over the Constitution. Wow, you nailed Obama for what he is, in your own words typed above!
Here's where you've gone off track: "how about those apparent spittle-spewing "Bushaphobes" still sore after his winning twice and now six years gone from office?"
Now granted, there was plenty of whining when he won in 2000. Not from me. I voted for him then.
The continued animosity towards Dubya has everything to do with his record of two idiotically mismanaged and lost wars coupled with the worst economic collapse in three generations. He came into office with a prosperous America at peace. He left an unprecedented disaster in his wake.
Obama inherited the Bush mess. With two years left in his second term, the jury is still out. But all indications are that he'll leave the USA in much better shape than he received it.
That's not an entirely inaccurate method to judge a chief executive's performance.
There was lots of whining in 2000 but it never stopped, and is still going.
As what O inherited, some aspects will be better and some worse. Polling shows plenty are currently feeling the latter, however.
Yes, he is a Communist Dictator, as well as a Wimp and a Tyrant. He also does trample all over the Constitution. Wow, you nailed Obama for what he is, in your own words typed above!
OK, n00b...
Back to your teenage chatrooms with that kind of talk.
There was lots of whining in 2000 but it never stopped, and is still going.
As what O inherited, some aspects will be better and some worse. Polling shows plenty are currently feeling the latter, however.
Meh.
That's the way it always is with our greatest Presidents. Not a one of them ever achieved their greatness with no strong opposition, and almost all left office in high controversy among the public of the time.
As far as a track record goes, Obama has one of more widespread and stronger for social needs than Bush, and the 21st century will be as different as the 20th was from the 19th. It's still too young a century to fully know or appreciate the lasting importance Obama's changes have wrought.
We will only get a small glimpse of what he's done that may really alter our history in the near future. 20 years is not enough, most times, for the full importance of changes a President causes to be fully known and understood.
These days, everyone takes a 5-day work week of 40 hours for granted. Overtime, a safe workplace, no 6-year-old workers on a production line, reliable and safe electric service and home heating, paid holidays, honest banking practices, true advertising, honest medical practice, and thousands of other things we take for granted were all once bitterly fought over, often to the death, in our past.
And they all came about due to a President in part or in total at some time or other. The power of the veto has settled a lot of very vital matters that created huge social change that only became evident later on, as the changes became universally accepted.
Nothing in our 21st century lives is close to how Americans lived 100 years ago. Very little is the same as how we all lived 75 or even 50 years ago. When a change is accepted by all of us, we think that's always the way it's been forever because none of us ever lived in those times. Our 'past' is becoming an increasingly shorter period because Americans never have had much of a sense of history, and nowadays, we have almost none at all.
If it happened before we were born, most of us know nothing of how life once was, what was wrong or right in our society, and how change occurred. Geezers like me got taught some history, but these days, history is not taught at all in our schools. Anyone who is now in their forties doesn't know our history as much as those from my generation, and their kids know next to nothing about anything that didn't happen after their birth.
Don't expect Obama's contributions to become evident for a long time to come. We will always have historians, and they are the ones who always ultimately decide which President joins the ranks of the great, not the average guy on the street.
Much will depend on what he's done that defies reversal. More than one Congress has done away with great social advances shortly after those advances were created. Visionary Presidents are rare anyway, so most never achieve lasting greatness.
Here is just one of the consequences of this poor Administration, which Obama's successor, even if it Hillary Clinton, will have to grapple with. Add to it repairs of our foreign policy, if we have any policy left, to name a few. What a horrible legacy.
At some point, in the future, Presidents Obama, Bush, and Clinton will be just footnotes in history but the national debt will always be with us.
How will the debt affect everyone?
It doesn't take a leap of imagination to foresee awful unintended consequences of the debt, besides the federal government sucking the life blood out of tax payers to just meet the national debt interest payments.
It would be great if we could look to our political leaders to lead the way, but we all know that is not going to happen.
Is there any good news? Below is an answer to the question in 2007:
"That being said, the national debt (outstanding Treasury securities), is not as large as you think. Of the $9 trillion, $5 trillion is held by local governments and government agencies (mostly by the Federal Reserve). Of the remaining $4 trillion, half is held by American citizens and institutions (i.e., money market funds and banks). The remaining $2 trillion is held by foreign governments, individuals, and firms."
Back to your teenage chatrooms with that kind of talk.
Oh to be a teenager again. Life was far easier and the world in general,
more safe and innocent back then.
What the heck has happened in the last 50 years?
Kids can't even play outside 'till the streetlights come on', anymore.
Since the all-time record Bush deficit in 2009, it has fallen each year.
You are aware that the budget for fiscal year 2009 was from Bush's last year.
Carry on.
I am hoping you are not an account. You do understand the difference in deficit and debt? Matter of fact the government doesn't make anything to payback their debt. I am not an accountant, but can figure out bookkeeping 101.
The deficit is the difference between the money Government takes in, called receipts, and what the Government spends, called outlays, each year. Receipts include the money the Government takes in from income, excise and social insurance taxes as well as fees and other income. Outlays include all Federal spending including social security and Medicare benefits along with all other spending ranging from medical research to interest payments on the debt. When there is a deficit, Treasury must borrow the money needed for the government to pay its bills.
Is the deficit falling because nobody is willing to give us loans? Like we should have ever depended on others for $$$.
China or more taxes, what is your poison??
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We got the bill. Now what?
I am not an accountant, but can figure out bookkeeping 101. 
