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Old 02-18-2015, 03:23 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Still whining about Bush are you.... It's been 10 years now since the Iraq war. When are you going to stop whining about what Bush did, and actually look at the problem in front of you? You don't think Obama should have any responsibility for doing anything at all? Are you like 12 years old?

Do you think we should go to ISIS and tell them " Gee sorry about what Bush did to you guys, can we be friends now?" Lol they would chop off your head. They don't care about that stuff. They care about the millions of dollars they're making off of the oil fields that they have stolen, and they care about all the sex slaves they have now that they have been raping and pillaging the land. Do you think you're going to convince them to stop that? Honestly, please answer that question.
No, of course not. They need to be crushed.

Now..you tell me, honestly, what is Obama doing wrong to deserve such criticism and what should he be doing differently?

 
Old 02-18-2015, 03:26 PM
 
Location: Texas
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So true. I post this here so people can understand, ISIL/ISIS does not mince words. They mean what they say. It's time to stop trying to tell them whether they are Islamic or not. In their minds, they ARE Islamic, and that's all that matters.

Devout Muslims decry label of “extremist” and say they’re “normal” for Islam | Freethought Nation

They can say whatever they want to, but the moment we agree with them that they represent Islam as a whole, the entire Arab coalition we have fighting with us will disappear.

Why on earth would we want that? And, what would happen next?
 
Old 02-18-2015, 03:27 PM
 
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Left or Right why would anyone trust a POTUS who speaks FARSI?Does Obama Speak Arabic? | The Weekly Standard ,

recites the Muslim prayer perfectly AND wears a "friendship" ring that doubles as his wedding ring that is an ARAB friendship ring inscribed with "There is no god but Allah."
Obama’s ring: ‘There is no god but Allah’ = picture when he was in college with same ring as his wedding ring today.

His speeches aid and abet "extremist enemies of the US" as he trashes America like he was an enemy. Please "Americans" left or right this man is an enigma like the Manchurian candidate. He has been caught lying so many times. HE is not worth fighting over.

He is not one of U.S. either on the left or right. He steals your privacy via a massive Big Bro Spy Operation and yet he SEALED HIS OWN RECORDS VIA THE COURTS!!!! He has via the DOJ/DHS militarized local cops, who treat the public as we ARE the enemy, while he leaves the borders open for the real enemies to walk in. HELLO PEOPLE??????

Those sleepers coming in on the border don't care if you are right or left!!! They see an American, not your politics. When they make their move, they are going to hurt Liberals and Conservatives alike. HELLO AMERICA?????? do you hear me? do you feel me?????

Is this a man that can be trusted to work on anybody's behalf? NO. It is clear as day: He has an agenda and he will use the Left or the Right to get to his goals. NONE OF WHICH BENEFIT THE UNITED STATES.

Born generational Americans Red/ White/Black/Brown/Yellow Obama has done nothing but damage our home and is removing our LIBERTY. Time to put aside your "left and right" and come together as "We the People."
 
Old 02-18-2015, 03:28 PM
 
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Left or Right why would anyone trust a POTUS who speaks FARSI?Does Obama Speak Arabic? | The Weekly Standard ,

recites the Muslim prayer perfectly AND wears a "friendship" ring that doubles as his wedding ring that is an ARAB friendship ring inscribed with "There is no god but Allah."
Obama’s ring: ‘There is no god but Allah’ = picture when he was in college with same ring as his wedding ring today.

His speeches aid and abet "extremist enemies of the US" as he trashes America like he was an enemy. Please "Americans" left or right this man is an enigma like the Manchurian candidate. He has been caught lying so many times. HE is not worth fighting over.

He is not one of U.S. either on the left or right. He steals your privacy via a massive Big Bro Spy Operation and yet he SEALED HIS OWN RECORDS VIA THE COURTS!!!! He has via the DOJ/DHS militarized local cops, who treat the public as we ARE the enemy, while he leaves the borders open for the real enemies to walk in. HELLO PEOPLE??????

Those sleepers coming in on the border don't care if you are right or left!!! They see an American, not your politics. When they make their move, they are going to hurt Liberals and Conservatives alike. HELLO AMERICA?????? do you hear me? do you feel me?????

Is this a man that can be trusted to work on anybody's behalf? NO. It is clear as day: He has an agenda and he will use the Left or the Right to get to his goals. NONE OF WHICH BENEFIT THE UNITED STATES.

Born generational Americans Red/ White/Black/Brown/Yellow Obama has done nothing but damage our home and is removing our LIBERTY. Time to put aside your "left and right" and come together as "We the People."
What's the agenda?
 
Old 02-18-2015, 03:29 PM
 
Location: Texas
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The Saudis are funding ISIS behind our backs (Well not really, we know about it, and they know we know, but they don't stop doing it anyway, and we can't make them stop without going to war with them).

America's Allies Are Funding ISIS - The Daily Beast

Saudi Funding of ISIS - The Washington Institute for Near East Policy

Despite this, they are one of our strongest allies in the region, along with Israel.

Yes, it appears they did in the beginning. But, not now. They've created a monster and unleashed more than they bargained for.

So, the question for us is...what we do now? Turn our backs and say, "You started this," and let ISIS over-run the Middle East? Or, do we say, "You screwed up, but we're willing to help you contain this for the larger good."

What would you do?
 
Old 02-18-2015, 03:33 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Maybe that is what "right wing thread killers" believe when drinking the Obama koolaid they cannot get enough of, but he has been wrong on the Middle East just about every time.

Lets start with opposing the surge, yet when it was successful, he and Biden took credit for it.
He did not support Egypt, our staunchest Arab allies in the region. He left Mubarak to be run over by a bus, and supported the Muslim Brotherhood candidate. Then when Christians were being slaughtered over there, nary a peep came out of this administration.
He took out Gaddafi and now the place is overrun with more Islamic wackos, some of which destroyed our embassy and killed the ambassador and three other Americans. He and Hillary claimed it was just in response to a stupid YT video no one watched, when in reality the intelligence community knew it was al Qaeda, as did the Brits, hence they reason they pulled out before the attack. He claimed ISIS was not a threat, and said they were a JV team, yet they are more dangerous/ruthless than the Islamic nuts in al Qaeda.

The list just goes on and on, but you koolaid drinkers probably think he is mistake free, and handling the Islamic threat well.
I wonder if you gave Bush as much slack for his blunders over there.

Also lets not kids ourselves into believing he refuses to call out Islamic terror for the (D) playbook reason.
Leaders in Congress has clearly called them out, so just because Obama hasn't doesn't mean the nuts don't think we know who or what they are. Heck other world leaders have called them for what they are, but you'd have us believe he thinks by remaining silent, his word is all the ISIS nuts listen for?
Heck he has his justice department calling the Ft Hood massacre "work place violence", even though the Islamic lunatic claims it was done in the name of Allah. Not to mention when he started as president he sent out his minions to reclassify the "war on terror" to "overseas contingency plan". Terrorism could no longer be called what it was, instead it was changed to "man made disaster".
So did the play on words/semantics help?


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No, he's hardly mistake free. In fact, he's made a mess of a lot of things, most of which was left to him as a mess in progress by the previous administration. And, he's on the verge of making a bigger mess with greater consequences in Ukraine.

But, in the case of ISIS, I fail to see what he's doing wrong or what he could do differently. Since you don't seem to like what he's doing, maybe you can tell me.
 
Old 02-18-2015, 03:34 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Gee, how terrible of the GOP to not want another Holocaust and to not want a hostile regime to take over Saudi Arabia.
A shift in strategic focus to the Western Pacific doesn't mean abandonment of Israel. That's simply not going to happen, not now, not ever.

In the case of Saudi Arabia, I don't see how a different regime could be any more hostile to our interests than the one they have there now, do you?
 
Old 02-18-2015, 03:36 PM
 
Location: Flawduh
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Left or Right why would anyone trust a POTUS who speaks FARSI?Does Obama Speak Arabic? | The Weekly Standard ,

recites the Muslim prayer perfectly AND wears a "friendship" ring that doubles as his wedding ring that is an ARAB friendship ring inscribed with "There is no god but Allah."
Obama’s ring: ‘There is no god but Allah’ = picture when he was in college with same ring as his wedding ring today.


His speeches aid and abet "extremist enemies of the US" as he trashes America like he was an enemy. Please "Americans" left or right this man is an enigma like the Manchurian candidate. He has been caught lying so many times. HE is not worth fighting over.

He is not one of U.S. either on the left or right. He steals your privacy via a massive Big Bro Spy Operation and yet he SEALED HIS OWN RECORDS VIA THE COURTS!!!! He has via the DOJ/DHS militarized local cops, who treat the public as we ARE the enemy, while he leaves the borders open for the real enemies to walk in. HELLO PEOPLE??????

Those sleepers coming in on the border don't care if you are right or left!!! They see an American, not your politics. When they make their move, they are going to hurt Liberals and Conservatives alike. HELLO AMERICA?????? do you hear me? do you feel me?????

Is this a man that can be trusted to work on anybody's behalf? NO. It is clear as day: He has an agenda and he will use the Left or the Right to get to his goals. NONE OF WHICH BENEFIT THE UNITED STATES.

Born generational Americans Red/ White/Black/Brown/Yellow Obama has done nothing but damage our home and is removing our LIBERTY. Time to put aside your "left and right" and come together as "We the People."
Except that the Quran forbids men from wearing gold...
 
Old 02-18-2015, 03:37 PM
 
Location: Texas
14,076 posts, read 20,532,927 times
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Originally Posted by Byron1022 View Post
Left or Right why would anyone trust a POTUS who speaks FARSI?Does Obama Speak Arabic? | The Weekly Standard ,

recites the Muslim prayer perfectly AND wears a "friendship" ring that doubles as his wedding ring that is an ARAB friendship ring inscribed with "There is no god but Allah."
Obama’s ring: ‘There is no god but Allah’ = picture when he was in college with same ring as his wedding ring today.

His speeches aid and abet "extremist enemies of the US" as he trashes America like he was an enemy. Please "Americans" left or right this man is an enigma like the Manchurian candidate. He has been caught lying so many times. HE is not worth fighting over.

He is not one of U.S. either on the left or right. He steals your privacy via a massive Big Bro Spy Operation and yet he SEALED HIS OWN RECORDS VIA THE COURTS!!!! He has via the DOJ/DHS militarized local cops, who treat the public as we ARE the enemy, while he leaves the borders open for the real enemies to walk in. HELLO PEOPLE??????

Those sleepers coming in on the border don't care if you are right or left!!! They see an American, not your politics. When they make their move, they are going to hurt Liberals and Conservatives alike. HELLO AMERICA?????? do you hear me? do you feel me?????

Is this a man that can be trusted to work on anybody's behalf? NO. It is clear as day: He has an agenda and he will use the Left or the Right to get to his goals. NONE OF WHICH BENEFIT THE UNITED STATES.

Born generational Americans Red/ White/Black/Brown/Yellow Obama has done nothing but damage our home and is removing our LIBERTY. Time to put aside your "left and right" and come together as "We the People."

Good Lord. That doesn't even deserve a response. There'd be no point in it anyhow, would there?
 
Old 02-18-2015, 03:38 PM
 
Location: Huntsville, AL
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They won't do it because he has no clear plan. He can't even admit that ISIS is Islamic terrorism.
His only game plan is to figure out what time is T-Time on Saturday.
He's made one person happy: Jimmy Carter... as now he's not the worst president of modern times.
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