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Old 03-01-2015, 02:47 PM
 
Location: Lost in Montana *recalculating*...
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Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber View Post
They are liberal on drugs, same sex marriage, military and abortion and pretty much everything else. They call themselves republican, because their parents are republicans.
They should join my political party- The WeeBee Party. Wee Bee tired of everyone else's BS.
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Old 03-01-2015, 04:21 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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The problem for you, though, is that they have principles. What they're doing is not becoming more liberal, it's following their principles. The same principle that leads them to support legalization of pot is going to lead them to oppose affirmative action, high taxes, gun control, etc. So from the leftist point of view, there is absolutely no hope for the Republican party at all. It's quite the opposite. The new breed of Republicans are so committed to their conservative principles that, unlike neo-cons, they are not willing to sacrifice those principles of freedom for the war on drugs or foreign intervention. That means the new breed of Republicans will oppose the liberal nanny state even more vigorously than establishment Republicans.
Apparently I have to "spread the reputation around"..... but, very well stated!
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Old 03-01-2015, 04:28 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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They are liberal on drugs, same sex marriage, military and abortion and pretty much everything else. They call themselves republican, because their parents are republicans.
Simply not true. Young Republicans / Libertarians may share some common goals, but there is a difference between sharing common goals and being an outright Liberal. The thing is, Liberals have hi-jacked many of these issues and claim them as exlusively their own, when they're not. This guy put it very accurately.......

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Originally Posted by kidkaos2
The problem for you, though, is that they have principles. What they're doing is not becoming more liberal, it's following their principles. The same principle that leads them to support legalization of pot is going to lead them to oppose affirmative action, high taxes, gun control, etc. So from the leftist point of view, there is absolutely no hope for the Republican party at all. It's quite the opposite. The new breed of Republicans are so committed to their conservative principles that, unlike neo-cons, they are not willing to sacrifice those principles of freedom for the war on drugs or foreign intervention. That means the new breed of Republicans will oppose the liberal nanny state even more vigorously than establishment Republicans.
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. While you may think our stances are liberal, I can guarantee that our reasons for those stances are polar opposite.
BINGO!!!!!

You hit the nail precisely on it's head. Well done.
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Old 03-01-2015, 05:10 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Simply not true. Young Republicans / Libertarians may share some common goals, but there is a difference between sharing common goals and being an outright Liberal. The thing is, Liberals have hi-jacked many of these issues and claim them as exlusively their own, when they're not.
When did liberals hijack pro-abortion, pro-drug and pro-gay stance from republicans?
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Old 03-01-2015, 05:26 PM
 
Location: Lost in Montana *recalculating*...
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When did liberals hijack pro-abortion, pro-drug and pro-gay stance from republicans?
That's right! I think all stoned gay guys should have the right to an abortion!
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Old 03-01-2015, 06:22 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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When did liberals hijack pro-abortion, pro-drug and pro-gay stance from republicans?
Being pro-choice, pro-weed legalization, and pro-gay rights doesn't automatically equate to being a Liberal. These are freedom issues, not Liberal issues.

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Old 03-01-2015, 06:46 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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I might also add that there is a big difference between being "pro-drug" and "pro-legalization"..... I can support the legalization of weed, letting people have the freedom to use it or not, without actually supporting the notion of people using this drug. As I said before, I think we have enough problems with the legal drugs we already have and don't need to add any more to the list, but it's none of the governments business what people choose to put in their bodies.

Same with abortion. I can support a womans right and freedom to do what she wants with her body, without being pro-abortion.

That really, is the difference between Libertarians and Liberals. I support freedom, whether I agree with it or not.
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Old 03-01-2015, 06:54 PM
 
Location: On a Long Island in NY
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Young Republicans (like myself) represent the future rather than the past like the present leadership of the party: a more moderate, more inclusive, more tolerant party. We want to move beyond social issues like abortion, gay marriage, etc and focus on the real issues at hand.

As I said in an earlier post, it's a race against time. One of two things will happen: either we will take over the party and once again become a truly competitive party on the national level - not just in the Deep South and rural Western states, or the party will implode because of the extremism and bible thumping of the Tea Party and "Religious Right" wackos.
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Old 03-01-2015, 06:57 PM
 
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I might also add that there is a big difference between being "pro-drug" and "pro-legalization"..... I can support the legalization of weed, letting people have the freedom to use it or not, without actually supporting the notion of people using this drug. As I said before, I think we have enough problems with the legal drugs we already have and don't need to add any more to the list, but it's none of the governments business what people choose to put in their bodies.

Same with abortion. I can support a womans right and freedom to do what she wants with her body, without being pro-abortion.

That really, is the difference between Libertarians and Liberals. I support freedom, whether I agree with it or not.
I don't see it that way. It seems liberals and libertarians disagree on fiscal policy, but they seem very similar on social issues.
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Old 03-01-2015, 06:58 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Cool! that means they won't be so judgemental about our nation's diversity or social safety nets.
Those are totally unrelated issues.
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