How can a public university expel students for singing? (advocate, racist, education)

[PuddingPops]

Originally Posted by InformedConsent

If that's true, why wasn't the Black Power fist student also expelled?

Because only white people are racist. Didn't you know that?

[billydaman]

Originally Posted by InformedConsent

Constitutional rights are BS? Wow. That's just simply STUNNING.

What is stunning is you honestly think your rights are absolute....

Phone in a bomb threat to the white house and make your case of "free speech".

[InformedConsent]

Originally Posted by DC at the Ridge

Because it isn't threatening?

Shabazz invoked Black Power after advocating killing Whites. Many people would find that threatening.

[Glenfield]

Originally Posted by Miker2069

While they may not be arrested they can be expelled without challenge by violating student conducts. Happens all the time, if you get got cheating, lying, etc.

Cheating and lying are not protected by the First Amendment. Their expulsion will never stand if it's challenged.
What speech is going to justify expulsion next, if the OU / SAE expulsion is accepted as proper? - The Washington Post

[Drover]

Originally Posted by billydaman

Um, agreeing to the code of conduct, which they most certainly did, pretty much "waives" this right, not that it needed to be waived in the first place.

No it doesn't. Any code of conduct at a public university that requires students to waive away their constitutional rights is unconstitutional and unenforceable.

[billydaman]

Originally Posted by Glenfield

Cheating and lying are not protected by the First Amendment. Their expulsion will never stand if it's challenged.
What speech is going to justify expulsion next, if the OU / SAE expulsion is accepted as proper? - The Washington Post

They agreed to the code of conduct....they violated the code of conduct.

[InformedConsent]

Originally Posted by billydaman

It seems you only want to repeat yourself instead of having a reasonable discussion.

What's unreasonable about equitable treatment? Why wasn't the Black Power fist student expelled for similarly racist and threatening actions?

[DC at the Ridge]

Originally Posted by greywar

Again, he just handed them a ton of cash. They are going to make money this way. If anything he's done the opposite of punish them.

I think he jumped the gun but we don't really know what the university's investigation has yielded so far. Maybe the two he expelled have a history? We don't know. I do think the outrage over the chant has created a momentum that has swept up the university, but OU has lawyers who presumably reviewed the school's code of conduct regarding this expulsion.

[billydaman]

Originally Posted by Drover

No it doesn't. Any code of conduct at a public university that requires students to waive away their constitutional rights is unconstitutional and unenforceable.

So, when you waive your right to counsel or to remain quiet when questioned by police, that's unconstitutional? You can and do waive your rights all the time....

Non-discolusre agreements..etc..etc....I know you smarter than this.

[DC at the Ridge]

Originally Posted by InformedConsent

The public university's "code of conduct" cannot trump Constitutional rights. Period.

Students have a right to an education without disruptions as well.