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Old 03-10-2015, 05:18 PM
 
Location: NYC
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The media referred to a 12 year old Tamir Rice as a man but actual college students singing racist songs are "just kids"

Amazing
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Old 03-10-2015, 05:24 PM
 
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What would you suggest then? Polite acquiescence in the face of egregious racism? Sorry, that doesn't cut it for me.
Speak out against it and educate on diversity. Humiliating people because they humiliated a group is kind of hypocritical, is it not?
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Old 03-10-2015, 05:25 PM
 
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They will win. And, yes, the monetary award for infringing on a Constitutional right will be quite large.
No they wont.
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Old 03-10-2015, 05:30 PM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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The media referred to a 12 year old Tamir Rice as a man but actual college students singing racist songs are "just kids"

Amazing
Links pls.
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Old 03-10-2015, 05:33 PM
 
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This whole uproar has been an overreaction, as usual. The censorship of speech is getting out of control in the US. The only bright side I can see is that, eventually, everyone will be fired, convicted, or banned from an organization based on politically-incorrect speech. Maybe when that happens, there will be a recognition that we've gone too far.
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Old 03-10-2015, 05:36 PM
 
Location: University City, Philadelphia
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I expect these expelled students to sue the university and win. They won't have to work again the rest of their life.
That's a nice fantasy on your part ... but that won't happen. I'm sure the president of the university consulted with his legal team on the appropriate response the university should take. The university did nothing illegal by expelling the two students, and the national fraternity was well within it's rights to shut down that chapter.

I am of the opinion the frat boys did indeed have the constitutional right to express themselves, but as others here have explained just because you use your constitutional right to "free speech" you are NOT shielded from other consequences of your conduct. The frat boys were not arrested nor charged with any criminal conduct ... they were expelled for violating a code of conduct of the university.
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Old 03-10-2015, 05:38 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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Being local to this incident and actually having a family member that is/was in that fraternity at OU. There are a couple of things to add to the argument.

These guys had a reputation of being "rich rowdies" on campus. Just being drunken jerks for the fun of it was part of their persona.

Secondly, part of the reason that Boren reacted the way he did is about six years ago, a black OU freshman football player who had had a gun charge in high school did an impromptu rap video that included words about shooting people. The player was dismissed from the team and the university after the video was leaked onto you tube by a fellow football player.
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Old 03-10-2015, 05:39 PM
 
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Clearly they were reprimanded for racism, not singing. Singing...that's a good. Doubt you'll catch any fish with it, though. Nice try...nah...stupid.
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Old 03-10-2015, 05:44 PM
 
Location: Tip of the Sphere. Just the tip.
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They will win. And, yes, the monetary award for infringing on a Constitutional right will be quite large.
That's not how this works. That's not how ANY OF THIS works!
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Old 03-10-2015, 05:45 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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Speak out against it and educate on diversity. Humiliating people because they humiliated a group is kind of hypocritical, is it not?
Well, I see a difference between supporting lynching on the one hand (even as a joke) and calling a bunch of stupid frat guys - stupid frat guys.
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