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Not on a University campus you cannot. If you walk by a girl on campus and tell her she has a nice ass, she can grab the nearby campus PD and have you sitting in the deans chair defending your actions in a heartbeat.
Unless youre attractive of course, then youll have a date. But thats an entirely different debate.
Generalizations aside......well there really is no need to address something like this. Crude comments are protected speech.
Look in the mirror. I do not condone what those college kids did but that in no way negates you doing the very same thing. Next time a cop is accused of being a racist for doing his job, come talk to me about whites not being held responsible for other peoples transgressions. I hate racism...and its come off especially horrendous when the person railing against racism is doing the same exact thing they rail about. You fed the troll and now want to pretend he speaks for all white people. What that person said is not the general consensus of our society. It is pathetic and you are just as guilty.
Look in the mirror? Nice deflection.
I'm not condoning or encouraging anything. I'm not suggesting finding these guys and beating them up or rioting or anything else, and where you got that in my post is beyond me. I'm asking why in these type of situations, the onus is on black people. This is the exact same script in the thread about the waiter writing the N-word on the receipt. People in that thread were blaming the black people because they probably didn't tip or other black people use the N-word. It's a fair question, why are certain groups absolved from having any personal responsibility for how their entire race acts?
It's a fair question to ask and of course you can't answer that, so then you try to turn it into me doing something racist. Par for the course.
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If this heads to court the school will say the song about lynching is a violent threat. The problem is that the kids were serediptously recorded. The intent to incite is simply not there. In fact if you want to be technical the person that recorded and sent it to social media sites is the once that incited people.
Or, my guess is the person recording it (or received it) was just doing so because s/he thought it would be a funny video, but turned into something much worse. And because they were raised with a little bit of class, decency and tact, they turned the video in.
If this heads to court the school will say the song about lynching is a violent threat. The problem is that the kids were serediptously recorded. The intent to incite is simply not there. In fact if you want to be technical the person that recorded and sent it to social media sites is the once that incited people.
a very good point, one that only the first responder even attempted to address.
"YOU can hang'em from a tree" is hardly a direct threat nor an incitement.
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If someone records someone in private threatening to harm someone that threat would still be something that can be acted on.
Was this a legitimate threat? Arguable.
agreed it's arguable. saying someone else can hang blacks from a tree, as disgusting as it is, doesn't sound like a direct threat to harm someone by any stretch of the imagination.
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Most people have heard of the oklahoma university racist song by now. No one doubts that what these kids did was dumb and racist. But I read the school closed their frat, and they are now talking suspension or expulsion. The school president said they "abused" their free speech. Have we really gotten to the point where a public school can expel students for a non-threatening albeit racist song? It sounds unconstitutional to me.
Write your senators and congressman. Contact the governor of Oklahoma.
agreed it's arguable. saying someone else can hang blacks from a tree, as disgusting as it is, doesn't sound like a direct threat to harm someone by any stretch of the imagination.
I believe translated its saying " you can hang them from a tree but I won't be allowing them to join"
Cross the line? In a setting such as this I'm simply saying the courts might think so.
Generalizations aside......well there really is no need to address something like this. Crude comments are protected speech.
They are in the "public arena" agreed. However on an institutions property/program you are subject to that institutions policies. If the policy is one of "dont say racist things or you will be expelled" then you must abide by this policy. Its the same reason I cant bring a gun to work. Theres a policy in place superseding my carry permit.
Not on a University campus you cannot. If you walk by a girl on campus and tell her she has a nice ass, she can grab the nearby campus PD and have you sitting in the deans chair defending your actions in a heartbeat.
Unless youre attractive of course, then youll have a date. But thats an entirely different debate.
They are in the "public arena" agreed. However on an institutions property/program you are subject to that institutions policies. If the policy is one of "dont say racist things or you will be expelled" then you must abide by this policy. Its the same reason I cant bring a gun to work. Theres a policy in place superseding my carry permit.
Depends on the status of the institution.
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Par for the course.
