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“I wasn’t surrounded by average heterosexual couples,” she says in her court brief. “Dad’s partners slept and ate in our home, and they took me along to meeting places in the LGBT communities. I was exposed to overt sexual activities like sodomy, nudity, pornography, group sex, sadomasochism and the ilk.”
raving hetero here. is there any guarantee if placed with a hetero couple, she wouldnt have been exposed to a swingers lifestyle,nudity,porn etc.?
Some parents are better than others, I dont believe sexual orientation is an indicator either way.
Many of the remarks, most notably the 'being exposed to excessive sexuality' comments, seem to be not an issue of gay marriage, but exposing children to sexuality before the are ready. Perhaps they are fighting the wrong issue?
They're of course entitled to their opinion, and plenty of gay couple I'm sure make terrible parents. But heterosexual couples don't also have a 100% success rate either, so the issue with parenting seems more connected with the individual parents involved and not sexual orientation.
So true. Who knows how many children of straight parents have had bad parenting? Surely, some have had such bad raising they ended up in prison. On the other hand, some kids overcome bad parenting and went on to be productive, outstanding people.
That's a good point, however, according to the US CDC, there are extremely high statistics of STDs, AIDS and mental illness among those who practice homosexuality, confirming much of the testimonies of these adult-children of homosexual parents, including the implication that those with homosexual preferences tend to sleep around.
Other studies show that those with homosexual preferences being in a committed relationships, does not have the profound affect on infidelity, you would hope for.
From the OP link - testimonies of children raised by homosexual parents:
“I wasn’t surrounded by average heterosexual couples,” she says in her court brief. “Dad’s partners slept and ate in our home, and they took me along to meeting places in the LGBT communities. I was exposed to overt sexual activities like sodomy, nudity, pornography, group sex, sadomasochism and the ilk.”
“There was no guarantee that any of my Dad’s partners would be around for long, and yet I often had to obey them,” she said. “My rights and innocence were violated.”
“As children, we are not allowed to express our disagreement, pain and confusion,” Stefanowicz explained. “Most adult children from gay households do not feel safe or free to publicly express their stories and life-long challenges; they fear losing professional licenses, not obtaining employment in their chosen field, being cut off from some family members or losing whatever relationship they have with their gay parent(s). Some gay parents have threatened to leave no inheritance, if the children don’t accept their parent’s partner du jour.”
“I grew up with a parent and her partner[s] in an atmosphere in which gay ideology was used as a tool of repression, retribution and abuse,” [scribd]240312276[/scribd]B.N. Klein wrote of her experience[/url] with a lesbian mother. “I have seen that children in gay households often become props to be publicly displayed to prove that gay families are just like heterosexual ones.”
Klein said she was taught that “some Jews and most Christians were stupid and hated gays and were violent,” and that homosexuals were “much more creative and artistic” because they were not repressed and were naturally more ‘feeling.’”
“At the same time I was given the message that if I did not agree (which I did not), I was stupid and damned to a life of punishing hostility from my mother and her partner,” she recounts. “They did this with the encouragement of all their gay friends in the community and they were like a cheering squad. I was only allowed out of my room to go to school. This could go on for weeks.”
“I was supposed to hate everyone based on what they thought of my mother and her partner,” said Klein. “People’s accomplishments did not matter, their personal struggles did not matter, and their own histories were of no consequence. The only thing that mattered was what they thought of gays.”
OMG, there is 4 children raised by gay parents that wish same sex marriage wasn't legal
based on divorce rates,I bet I can find more than 4 children of traditional sex marriages who wish it wasn't legal!
Guess what OP, Gay marriage is not a cure for child abuse. I'm sure gay couples will have the same (hopefully less) rate of abuse as traditional parents. But your horror stories can EASILy be topped. . .by horror stories of abuse by traditional marrage parents.
Trying to imply gay couples are at greater risk, ignores this is already an issue for traditional marriages.
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raving hetero here. is there any guarantee if placed with a hetero couple, she wouldnt have been exposed to a swingers lifestyle,nudity,porn etc.?
Some parents are better than others, I dont believe sexual orientation is an indicator either way.
That's a good point, however, according to the US CDC, there are extremely high statistics of STDs, AIDS and mental illness among those who practice homosexuality, confirming much of the testimonies of these adult-children of homosexual parents, including the implication that those with homosexual preferences tend to sleep around.
There is plenty of STDs, AIDS and Mental illness among straight people too. Perhaps there are implications there?
This is homophobic propaganda and you should be ashamed of yourself for spreading it. Wrapping it in a pseudo-intellectual narrative may make you feel smarter, but does little to hide your bigotry.
Gays make excellent parents about the same percentage of the time that straight people do.
That's a good point, however, according to the US CDC, there are extremely high statistics of STDs, AIDS and mental illness among those who practice homosexuality, confirming much of the testimonies of these adult-children of homosexual parents, including the implication that those with homosexual preferences tend to sleep around.
Other studies show that those with homosexual preferences being in a committed relationships, does not have the profound affect on infidelity, you would hope for.
Indeed, but don't be fooled by the common logical problem you're running into. You're assuming that because X is true, and Y is true, then X and Y must be related. The higher rates of STDs and mental illness among homosexuals may have little to do with being homosexuals.
I can't give a for sure answer, but I'd imagine STDs do spread amongst homosexuals faster simply because there are less of them. If you take a group of 10 homosexuals and 100 heterosexuals, one in both categories having an STD, all 10 gay people will be infected long before 100 heterosexuals simply because how few people the disease has to hit before getting them. The best comparison example I can think of is in the time of an epidemic, looking at a given town that has a white majority, it would be unreasonable to suggest that minorities are more prone to the disease because more of them were infected faster, when likely them being a minority has little to do with the actual spread of illness.
As for mental illness, that's a complex one. I'd imagine that suffering abuse from those who do not approve of homosexuality is a much more dominant factor in increased likelihood of mental illness.
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OMG, there is 4 children raised by gay parents that wish same sex marriage wasn't legal
based on divorce rates,I bet I can find more than 4 children of traditional sex marriages who wish it wasn't legal!
Guess what OP, Gay marriage is not a cure for child abuse. I'm sure gay couples will have the same (hopefully less) rate of abuse as traditional parents. But your horror stories can EASILy be topped. . .by horror stories of abuse by traditional marrage parents.
Trying to imply gay couples are at greater risk, ignores this is already an issue for traditional marriages.
I don't think anyone would argue that traditional marriage should be legal, but that's because those who were raised in a poor traditional marriage household are aware that the problems were not connected to the concept of marriage as a whole, but the unique individuals that caused the circumstances to arise.
[quote=SuperSoul;38790628]That's a good point, however, according to the US CDC, there are extremely high statistics of STDs, AIDS and mental illness among those who practice homosexuality, confirming much of the testimonies of these adult-children of homosexual parents, including the implication that those with homosexual preferences tend to sleep around.
Other studies show that those with homosexual preferences being in a committed relationships, does not have the profound affect on infidelity, you would hope for.
"In Central Florida, where The Villages and other retirement communities sprawl across several counties, reported cases of syphilis and chlamydia increased 71 percent among those 55 and older in that same period. And South Florida saw a 60 percent rise in those two sexually transmitted infections among the same age group, according to the Florida Department of Health."
You got any stats about the "homosexuals " that compare to a 71% increase in anything negative at all?
You better saddle up your faux outrage and get on down to Florida or pick any senior community you choose and start your pointless preaching with a vengeance; they're getting away from you while you're obsessing over "gays". Cripes!
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