Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
View Poll Results: Why are European cops so afraid to shoot civilians?
Europeans are a docile folk who don't break the law 4 28.57%
Europeans don't have limbs and are incapable of attacking/running from cops 0 0%
Europeans are astonishingly weak and incapable of actually hurting cops 2 14.29%
European cop are sissies and die all the time 1 7.14%
Other 7 50.00%
Voters: 14. You may not vote on this poll

Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 03-19-2015, 08:57 AM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
9,701 posts, read 5,116,202 times
Reputation: 4270

Advertisements

The question isn't "do American cops shoot more people than their European counterparts", it's "how many countries and how many years do you need to combine for the European death count to match America's from LAST YEAR."

U.S. Cops Kill at 100 Times the Rate of Other Capitalist Countries | Global Research

We hear that all the deaths in America by cop are due to cops justifiably protecting themselves from imminent death, that the only way that cops have to deal with these unruly punchers, runners, and mentally ill folks is to shoot them.

So this begs the question - why are American cops so much better at staying alive than their European counterparts? With all the non-killing that those Euro cops do, they must be dying by the truckload.

I've seen Europeans -- they have arms and hands to attack with, they have legs to run with, they have mentals that can be illed, yet they aren't dying at anywhere near the rate of American civilians.

So what's the reason the America has so many more cop shootings than other comparable countries?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 03-19-2015, 09:13 AM
 
Location: Billings, MT
9,884 posts, read 10,981,966 times
Reputation: 14180
Other, as in "I do not care about what happens in Europe. It is a mix of entirely different cultures, and has no direct relationship to the people of the United States!"
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-19-2015, 09:16 AM
bUU
 
Location: Florida
12,074 posts, read 10,711,454 times
Reputation: 8798
Quote:
Originally Posted by EddieB.Good View Post
So what's the reason the America has so many more cop shootings than other comparable countries?
The preference for a culture of violence and brutishness among significant portions of one of the major political parties. While most civilized nations bicker internally about how best to achieve progress toward advancing civilization, the United States has a strong contingent actively in support of reactionaryism and regressiveness.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-19-2015, 09:21 AM
 
Location: Germany
1,148 posts, read 1,014,547 times
Reputation: 1702
Excerpt from the documentary series "The Norden". Police captain Peter Whittingham from LAPD visits Finland, Sweden and Norway. How are suspects treated? What equipment do Nordic police officers carry, and how are they allowed to use it? What role does the police have in the Nordics?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zEixWYqPVA
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-19-2015, 09:24 AM
 
78,437 posts, read 60,640,522 times
Reputation: 49743
Quote:
Originally Posted by EddieB.Good View Post
So what's the reason the America has so many more cop shootings than other comparable countries?
Look at the US homicide rate in general. If it were roughly the same as Europe you would have a point.

US cops are up against criminals that are typically more violent, better armed etc. and act accordingly.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-19-2015, 09:47 AM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
9,701 posts, read 5,116,202 times
Reputation: 4270
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mathguy View Post
Look at the US homicide rate in general. If it were roughly the same as Europe you would have a point.

US cops are up against criminals that are typically more violent, better armed etc. and act accordingly.
So I assume you mean literally better armed. As in, Americans have better biceps, triceps, grip, etc. B/c American cops have killed more UNARMED people than all of Europe combined.

Or maybe you mean that Americans have better access to kitchen knives, wallets, and toy guns than Europe, since again American cops kill more people holding non-lethal objects than all of Europe combined.

Or maybe there are undeveloped mental powers in the American mentally ill that leads to them being more threatening and dangerous than the European mentally ill, since American cops kill more diagnosed mentally-ill people than all of Europe combined.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-19-2015, 09:49 AM
 
27,657 posts, read 16,147,064 times
Reputation: 19081
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mathguy View Post
Look at the US homicide rate in general. If it were roughly the same as Europe you would have a point.

US cops are up against criminals that are typically more violent, better armed etc. and act accordingly.
we have a winner
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-19-2015, 10:13 AM
 
78,437 posts, read 60,640,522 times
Reputation: 49743
Quote:
Originally Posted by EddieB.Good View Post
So I assume you mean literally better armed. As in, Americans have better biceps, triceps, grip, etc. B/c American cops have killed more UNARMED people than all of Europe combined.

Or maybe you mean that Americans have better access to kitchen knives, wallets, and toy guns than Europe, since again American cops kill more people holding non-lethal objects than all of Europe combined.

Or maybe there are undeveloped mental powers in the American mentally ill that leads to them being more threatening and dangerous than the European mentally ill, since American cops kill more diagnosed mentally-ill people than all of Europe combined.
I can only hope you are being intentionally obtuse.

If you want to have real adult discussion then stop making silly statements and strawman arguments and we can go over the reasons.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-19-2015, 10:19 AM
 
4,765 posts, read 3,734,337 times
Reputation: 3038
The overall rate of death by firearms in the US vs. all of Europe is hardly inconsequential in this matter. Unless one believes Americans are simply more suicidal and homicidal and accident prone than Europeans.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-19-2015, 10:20 AM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
9,701 posts, read 5,116,202 times
Reputation: 4270
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mathguy View Post
I can only hope you are being intentionally obtuse.

If you want to have real adult discussion then stop making silly statements and strawman arguments and we can go over the reasons.
OK. Let's start with unarmed deaths. I have to believe that there's no difference in the strength or "threat" of someone who's unarmed in America vs Europe. What leads to American cops using lethal force more than European ones?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 03:21 PM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top