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View Poll Results: Why are European cops so afraid to shoot civilians?
Europeans are a docile folk who don't break the law 4 28.57%
Europeans don't have limbs and are incapable of attacking/running from cops 0 0%
Europeans are astonishingly weak and incapable of actually hurting cops 2 14.29%
European cop are sissies and die all the time 1 7.14%
Other 7 50.00%
Voters: 14. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-19-2015, 07:34 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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I'm very disappointed that the diehard cop apologists don't have a story to spin about why the European police forces are so non-lethal when dealing with their citizens.
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Old 03-20-2015, 12:49 AM
 
Location: Maryland about 20 miles NW of DC
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The question isn't "do American cops shoot more people than their European counterparts", it's "how many countries and how many years do you need to combine for the European death count to match America's from LAST YEAR."

U.S. Cops Kill at 100 Times the Rate of Other Capitalist Countries | Global Research

We hear that all the deaths in America by cop are due to cops justifiably protecting themselves from imminent death, that the only way that cops have to deal with these unruly punchers, runners, and mentally ill folks is to shoot them.

So this begs the question - why are American cops so much better at staying alive than their European counterparts? With all the non-killing that those Euro cops do, they must be dying by the truckload.

I've seen Europeans -- they have arms and hands to attack with, they have legs to run with, they have mentals that can be illed, yet they aren't dying at anywhere near the rate of American civilians.

So what's the reason the America has so many more cop shootings than other comparable countries?
European cops don't have to face a gun happy gun saturated population were choosing to not use lethal force is to risk being shot and likely killed! American cops are far more likely to die on the jobs than their European or Japanese counterparts. If people are upset over all these cops killing unarmed citizens. they only have themselves and the NRA to blame.
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Old 03-20-2015, 01:44 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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European cops don't have to face a gun happy gun saturated population were choosing to not use lethal force is to risk being shot and likely killed! American cops are far more likely to die on the jobs than their European or Japanese counterparts. If people are upset over all these cops killing unarmed citizens. they only have themselves and the NRA to blame.
Ohhhh, BINGO.... Eddie b good struck gold. He skillfully lured you in to the trap he so intricately set. This is exactly what HE wanted to say in the OP, but instead chose to guide some unwitting sap in to saying it for him.....

Pretty obviously a "let's ban guns" thread.
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Old 03-20-2015, 02:21 AM
 
Location: Canada
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I've seen Europeans -- they have arms and hands to attack with, they have legs to run with, they have mentals that can be illed, yet they aren't dying at anywhere near the rate of American civilians.

So what's the reason the America has so many more cop shootings than other comparable countries?
Maybe you should look into European statistics about violent crime rates - heck, crime in general - and mental illness, and the number of violent criminals incarcerated. Look at Canada's, Australia's and the United Kingdom's statistics as well. Then compare all that with Americas statistics. And take a boo through the Current Events forum here for a refresher course on the inhumanity of mankind against the rest of the world.

Then get back to us and tell us which of them all is leading with the most violent crimes, most violent criminals, most bigots and racists (of all colours), most religious fanatics, most drug addicts and the most rabidly frothing-at-the-mouth-crazy nut cases running around killing each other, their children, their dogs and whatever else strikes their fancy and doing other horrible things to themselves and the rest of their society.

Whether they're armed with weapons or not.

Then ask again why cops in America shoot so many people while trying to do the thankless job of keeping the peace and maintaining law and order.

Where there's smoke there's fire.

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Old 03-20-2015, 02:24 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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That is a terrible article that appears to have been written by a non-journalist.

Look at this sentence:

"The same year, German police, who do carry guns, reportedly killed six people. Germany, another racist, capitalist country with large numbers of oppressed minorities, has a population about one-quarter that of the U.S. So on a per capita basis, U.S. police were 40 times as likely to kill as German cops."

C'mon! I looked at the top of the article on the webpage. It wasn't originally written for that Global Research website. It was written for something called Liberation News.

Liberation News: "Newspaper of the Party for Socialism and Liberation"

This is them according to their own website:

"The Party for Socialism and Liberation is a working-class party of leaders and activists from many different struggles, founded to promote the movement for revolutionary change. Capitalism—the system in which all wealth and power is held by a tiny group of billionaires and their state—is the source of the main problems confronting humanity today: imperialist war, poverty, exploitation, layoffs, unemployment, racism, sexism, lesbian/gay/bi/trans oppression, environmental destruction, mass imprisonment, unionbusting and more. We are fighting for socialism, a system where the wealth of society belongs to those who produce it—the workers—and is used in a planned and sustainable way for the benefit of all. In place of greed, domination and exploitation, we stand for solidarity, friendship and cooperation between all peoples."

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Can we say Left Wing Nut Jobs?
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Old 03-20-2015, 02:48 AM
 
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I am not at all saying that all guns should be banned in the United States, but I think it is an important factor to consider as was already pointed out: When I live in a society where everybody I meet could possibly have a gun, I am more likely to assume that my life as a police office might be threatened. Thus, I take less chances and shoot.

In contrast, when I live in a society where it is highly unlikely that anybody I meet is carrying a gun and shoot me from a distance, I am less inclined to shoot at another person myself.

What does that have to do with being "anti-gun?" It is one variable of many others but IMO one that is important why more American than German/Austrian etc. police officers die.
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Old 03-20-2015, 02:58 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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The question isn't "do American cops shoot more people than their European counterparts", it's "how many countries and how many years do you need to combine for the European death count to match America's from LAST YEAR."

U.S. Cops Kill at 100 Times the Rate of Other Capitalist Countries | Global Research

We hear that all the deaths in America by cop are due to cops justifiably protecting themselves from imminent death, that the only way that cops have to deal with these unruly punchers, runners, and mentally ill folks is to shoot them.

So this begs the question - why are American cops so much better at staying alive than their European counterparts? With all the non-killing that those Euro cops do, they must be dying by the truckload.

I've seen Europeans -- they have arms and hands to attack with, they have legs to run with, they have mentals that can be illed, yet they aren't dying at anywhere near the rate of American civilians.

So what's the reason the America has so many more cop shootings than other comparable countries?
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So I assume you mean literally better armed. As in, Americans have better biceps, triceps, grip, etc. B/c American cops have killed more UNARMED people than all of Europe combined.

Or maybe you mean that Americans have better access to kitchen knives, wallets, and toy guns than Europe, since again American cops kill more people holding non-lethal objects than all of Europe combined.

Or maybe there are undeveloped mental powers in the American mentally ill that leads to them being more threatening and dangerous than the European mentally ill, since American cops kill more diagnosed mentally-ill people than all of Europe combined.


I'm sure we can get a fund me page, to get you over to Europe, were you belong.
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Old 03-20-2015, 07:28 AM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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The preference for a culture of violence and brutishness among significant portions of one of the major political parties. While most civilized nations bicker internally about how best to achieve progress toward advancing civilization, the United States has a strong contingent actively in support of reactionaryism and regressiveness.
Blah, blah, blah.....

Verbal vomit.
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Old 03-20-2015, 07:34 AM
 
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I'm very disappointed that the diehard cop apologists don't have a story to spin about why the European police forces are so non-lethal when dealing with their citizens.

Did it ever cross your mind that in Europe, when their citizens are confronted by cops, citizens actually listen? They don't start yelling racist, what did I do, racist, racist ,racist, racist....

Did that even come close to crossing your mind?
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Old 03-20-2015, 07:36 AM
 
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The preference for a culture of violence and brutishness among significant portions of one of the major political parties. While most civilized nations bicker internally about how best to achieve progress toward advancing civilization, the United States has a strong contingent actively in support of reactionaryism and regressiveness.
So, enforcing the law means nothing to you.

Yes, there are those cops that put a black eye on all cops, but it would help if when pulled over to not scream racist, bigot...and anything else they fell needs to be said....
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