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Old 03-24-2015, 01:37 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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A majority of Boston residents believe Dzhokhar Tsarnaev should not receive the death penalty for his admitted role in the deadly 2013 Boston Marathon bombing, according to a new poll released Monday.

Most Boston residents oppose death penalty for Marathon bomber Tsarnaev: poll

There are many reasons the death penalty should be abolished. It is a complex issue and it is difficult to point to any single fact or argument as the most important.

Question 1: In this PARTICULAR case, do you believe he deserves death penalty?

Question 2: According to The American Civil Liberties Union believes the death penalty inherently violates the constitutional ban against cruel and unusual punishment and the guarantees of due process of law and of equal protection under the law. Furthermore, we believe that the state should not give itself the right to kill human beings – especially when it kills with premeditation and ceremony, in the name of the law or in the name of its people, and when it does so in an arbitrary and discriminatory fashion.

https://www.aclu.org/capital-punishm...-death-penalty

Then how do you explain The Nuremberg Trials conclusion?

Frank, Hans - Hanged in Nuremberg on Oct. 16, 1946

Jodl, Alfred - hanged in Nuremberg on Oct. 16, 1946

Kaltenbrunner, Ernst - hanged on Oct. 16, 1946 in Nuremberg.

etc.

If killing is wrong period (according to some people, not according to me), then is Capital Punishment ever Morally Justified?
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Old 03-24-2015, 01:44 PM
 
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When it comes to the death penalty, the USA has company of only the worse countries (China, Yemen, Iran and North Korea) in the world. Countries like Australia and those in Europe exercise more civility. Just not as blood thirty.
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Old 03-24-2015, 01:45 PM
 
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Outside of self defense I do not believe anyone has the right to take the life of another.
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Old 03-24-2015, 01:47 PM
 
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What are you after, lily? Do you want to discuss the Boston bomber, public opinion or the death penalty in general? Of what relevance is Nuremberg, and why did you mention it?
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Old 03-24-2015, 01:47 PM
 
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I support the death penalty only for the most atrocious acts, like this one. I hear Utah is making some nice strides in this area recently.
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Old 03-24-2015, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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What are you after, lily? Do you want to discuss the Boston bomber, public opinion or the death penalty in general? Of what relevance is Nuremberg, and why did you mention it?
just death penalty in general.
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Old 03-24-2015, 01:51 PM
 
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I support the death penalty only for the most atrocious acts, like this one. I hear Utah is making some nice strides in this area recently.
I do, as well, but the biggest obstacle for me is proof. Executing innocent people is more atrocious than most of the crimes, themselves.
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Old 03-24-2015, 01:52 PM
 
Location: Iowa, USA
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1) No, I do not think he should be executed. He committed a horrible crime, but I don't think he would have done it had he not been involved with his brother. Had he distanced himself, I think he would be a normal person like anyone else. That doesn't absolve him of guilt, but I think it should be taken into consideration when dealing with the punishment. Life in prison with maybe the possibility of parole is satisfactory.

2) I do not believe the state has the right to execute people. While in many ways, life in prison is almost more cruel than execution, it's still more humane. It allows a person to better themselves, even if they will never be released. Prisons have libraries and such; perhaps he can be a good person in prison, maybe help other inmates better themselves who won't be their for too long. Never know. But I do not believe the state should be allowed to decide who can live or die. I think it's immoral to believe harsh punishments are acceptable just because it gives us a sense to retribution.
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Old 03-24-2015, 01:52 PM
 
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just death penalty in general.
Thanks.
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Old 03-24-2015, 01:53 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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A majority of Boston residents believe Dzhokhar Tsarnaev should not receive the death penalty for his admitted role in the deadly 2013 Boston Marathon bombing, according to a new poll released Monday.

Most Boston residents oppose death penalty for Marathon bomber Tsarnaev: poll
229 registered voters in Boston were surveyed.

When the conclusions agree with out perceptions, most people accept them.

When conclusions are in conflict with our perceptions, most people dismiss the poll.
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