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Old 03-25-2015, 06:44 PM
 
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Whats to thrash?

He tried to destroy ACA. And then when he realized it was actually a good deal and that he could save money he hopped right on it.

He is a bit two-faced on this and comes off looking like a hypocrite. But other than that its hilarious.

Nothing to throw at him, he did this on his own. And rightly deserves to be a lightening rod for ridicule because of his own action.
oh please, his wife is losing her health insurance, so he needed to get coverage for his family, so he did what the law required, he signed up for health insurance. and since it is through his employer, he had to go through the exchange. nice try but you fail.
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Old 03-25-2015, 06:46 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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More like great lies.

"People who are getting expanded Medicaid aren't getting healthcare, they're getting waiting lists." I know from personal experience, with both a family member and a friend--one in Michigan and one in Illinois--that this is absolutely not true. They both are getting excellent care on the expanded Medicaid, and for the one in Michigan, it saved her life.

"Obamacare is the single largest job killer in the United States." Big lie that has been debunked numerous times. I wish the anchors had called him on this fabrication, but they let the lie stand.

In the end he's asked why he should be president, and he responds, "Because I'll tell the truth." And yet, he told two outright lies in under four minutes.
The majority of my doctor's practice is Medicare/ Medicaid. They get the same attention as I do. Milage varies.

I keep forgetting the economy was in terrific shape back in 2008. I keep forgetting that the U.S. had not shed a single job to outsourcing or technology until Obama.

Too bad they did not ask him about H1-B visas.
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Old 03-25-2015, 06:56 PM
 
Location: Canada
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No he didn't avoid any trap..He setup his own trap by bashing the very thing he abhors...Principled as he is according to his supporters..HE SHOULD have Abstained from even visiting the Federal Site to obtain ACA...OR he could have gone completely free enterprise/Capitalism and go Private Insurance and pay out of pocket..BUT He did NOT..

The truth really is he and his Family have benefited thru his wife's Employer supported subsidizing by Goldman Saks (80%) venue which met ACA Mandates..since DAY ONE..2014...

Fast forward too 2015> since he needs his Wifey at his side..Cruz Family gave up her PERK of the Job and had to go to Gov.com to acquire Family HC Coverage...He can spin everyday but Tuesday..It's he DID NOT Walk his rhetoric walk..instead..followed the most reasonable common sense HC Insurance offered....WHAT a Guy..He may talk STU..peed but $$ is more important than principle..so it seems....Double Speak!!! Koolaider's applaud..follows law...move on. org
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Old 03-25-2015, 06:56 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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Tell it to Ted Cruz. He seems happy to have it. If he thought it was so unaffordable he would have simply put his money where his mouth was and paid his own way. But nope, the minute he lost his wife's insurance he scurried on over to the exchanges and got him some of that Obamacare. He must believe it's worth it, huh?

Was he subsidized?
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Old 03-25-2015, 06:59 PM
 
Location: Canada
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Was he subsidized?
Yepp...Fed's pay 75% of his Premium..funded by Taxpayers....Lets get rid of Taxpayer funded support for these guys, eh? (Sarcasm meant)
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Old 03-25-2015, 07:09 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Go ahead and try to tell us how having a 6k+ deductible is good for anyone. How in the world is someone who can barely pay the monthly premium going to pay the deductible? How? How will they get treatment if they can't afford it? They won't. So, tell us again how someone who is paying a monthly premium but can't afford the treatment because they can't afford the deductible is better off? They aren't, they are WORSE OFF, because not only can they not afford the treatment, they are out the premium payment to boot. They are paying to NOT get treatment!!!! Please, I'd like to hear this. BTW, you are talking about Medicare NOT the ACA.

That the out of pocket includes the deductible is capped is the trade-off.
Pre ACA, about 38% of plans did not include the deductible in their out of pocket cap.
Pre ACA , most plans had annual/ lifetime payout caps.
Pre ACA , most states allowed insurers to discriminate against those with pre- existing conditions.
Pre ACA, most plans did not include an annual check up, Cancer Screening and vaccinations, when the patient desired them without a co- pay.

Then there are those states that allowed insurers to sell junk plans to the masses, high deductibles and low caps or plans that did not include hospitalization.

First and foremost, ACA is providing consumer protection that most states did not. If the states had looked out for the best interests of their people instead of the insurer's bottom line, there would have been no need for a national baseline.

It too bad that insurers would not play ball with catastrophic plans. Given insurers were no longer able to discriminate against pre- existing conditions, nothing would preclude someone from opting out of a catastrophic plan into a more comprehensive plan once one recieved a nasty diagnosis. Sort of like buying auto insurance after you totaled the car and expecting a payout.
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Old 03-25-2015, 07:13 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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The 'job killer' claim has doubtless been disputed, but not necessarily "debunked." What we have here is just a disagreement of opinion. To say that this is a lie only shows that you don't understand the definition of 'lie.'
In order for ^ to be true it also means that an opinion/ sound bite is not necessarily the truth. Know what I mean?
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Old 03-25-2015, 07:16 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Because he HAS to. The law states he MUST have health insurance.
No it does not.

The law say he has to pay a penalty if he chooses to not maintain insurance and does not qualify for a hardship.

It would be irresponsible for him to decline insurance.
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Old 03-25-2015, 07:19 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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I don't mind Cruz, but those answers were old and worn.
I am rather fascinated by him.

I agree his responses were old and worn.

He was not being interviewed by journalists going for the jugular. This is morning TV and CBS keeps it light.
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Old 03-25-2015, 07:40 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Reno finds Medicaid expansion a tough hand to play

Since she signed onto Medicaid, her care is free, including her medicines. But there's a downside: It can take two months to get a doctor's appointment at a community health center, or it's an all-day wait if she just shows up.

Mesa County Health Department's aims to ease Medicaid doctor shortage

The health department says there are a few reasons why our county may be seeing this shortage. One being the amount of physicians retiring and closing practices. Marillac Clinic, who sees Medicaid patients, tells us many practices are no longer accepting new Medicaid patients because that insurance pays the least for physicians.

As Medicaid enrollment grows, participating doctors decreases - FierceHealthPayer

As Medicaid enrollment continues to rise--it now covers as many as 1 in 5 Americans--the number of primary care physicians accepting Medicaid is dropping. Just 34 percent of PCPs now accept Medicaid, which is a 9-point drop from two years ago, according to a new HealthPocket report.

Study finds Medicaid expansion drove up ER visits - Columbia Missourian

A new study has found that people enrolled recently in Medicaid went to the emergency room 40 percent more frequently than others, often seeking help for conditions that could be treated less expensively in a doctor's office or an urgent care clinic.

Younger MDs have been gravitating to more lucrative specialties than family practice for a generation.

Easier to be a Dermatologist with a substantial practice devoted to " injectables" where an MD can take in more income in an hour than a Family Practice can in a day. And, they rarely have after hour on call emergencies.

It's been increasingly common for Physician Assistants and Nurse Practitioners working under an MD to handle the lion's share of Family Practice work. Some practices have been trending to Group appointments. Take a dozen Diabetic patients and after vitals, see them as a group. After initial skepticism, many patients enjoy and benefit fron hearing other people's questions and knowing they are not alone.

It is my understanding states not the fed, determine payments for Medicaid, no?
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