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Old 03-31-2015, 03:49 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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I'm sorry, but bull. Of course they have a problem with it.
Then why do they buy/own Apple products? Why no boycott of Apple?
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Old 03-31-2015, 03:54 PM
 
Location: Riding the light...
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America has a free market, not a restricted market.
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Should have a free market. If the government is involved in the market at all, it isn't a true free market.
This is not a free market
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Another fat “green” loan to an Obama connected company

...the Energy Department has announced a new fuel-efficient-vehicle loan—a $259 million conditional award to Alcoa. It’s a pretty sweet deal: The Energy Department touts on its website how this loan program “offers attractive financing for U.S. auto industry,” including no application fees, a closing fee of just 0.1 percent, and interest rates estimated at no more than 4 percent.

Of course, one might wonder why a company like Alcoa, which brought in $23.9 billion in revenue last year, needs government (read: taxpayer) help.

But it turns out Alcoa has major Obama administration ties.
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Old 03-31-2015, 03:55 PM
 
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"Freedom" to engage in trade with anyone but gays?
"Freedom" to engage in trade with anyone but blacks?
"Freedom" to engage in trade with anyone but women?
"Freedom" to engage in trade with anyone but Jews?
Sorry, but "Freedom" to engage in trade comes with the RESPONSIBILITY to engage in trade with ANYONE - including people you may not approve of.

"Freedom" is not - and never was - the "Freedom" to do "whatever I want".


Ken
So then why can't I go to Curves fitness center and sign up for a membership? Clearly they're infringing on my rights, since they have a "responsibility" to do business with me no matter what right? As you said above, people cannot be denied based on gender.
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Old 03-31-2015, 03:56 PM
 
Location: Chicago Area
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There is a group on TV right now with their own show that have a religious polygamist marriage. They are not in jail. It is not illegal for them to have a wedding in their yard declaring themselves married.
Because nobody is bothering to prosecute. The laws haven't changed since the anti-Mormon Crusades. Everything is still in place for an all-out assault on any polygamist organization of any kind, especially if they are in Utah. How else do you think the following was even possible?





Like I said, it already happened before. It can happen again. And it's a lot easier to do it under the banner of anti-discrimination.

Frankly, I was shocked that the lawsuit against the Knapps wasn't just thrown out of court. Taking legal action against individuals refusing to perform a gay marriage is a very short hop away from prosecuting entire religions. Weren't the Knapps ordained ministers in the first place? Wouldn't that fact have protected them? Apparently it didn't.
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Old 03-31-2015, 04:02 PM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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So then why can't I go to Curves fitness center and sign up for a membership? Clearly they're infringing on my rights, since they have a "responsibility" to do business with me no matter what right? As you said above, people cannot be denied based on gender.
You SHOULD be able to do that. If you want to join Curves go ahead and sue them.

Ken
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Old 03-31-2015, 04:03 PM
 
Location: Canada
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So then why can't I go to Curves fitness center and sign up for a membership? Clearly they're infringing on my rights, since they have a "responsibility" to do business with me no matter what right? As you said above, people cannot be denied based on gender.

What does Membership only participating clubs, businesses i.e. Costco have NOTHING to do with this? NOTHING..Boy's club.who only allow card carrying members men only patronage..LEGAL..If you want to get the benefit of their "Club Only" benefits..Then all you have to is purchase a membership..Voila..free to shop your brains out..
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Old 03-31-2015, 04:07 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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Because nobody is bothering to prosecute. The laws haven't changed since the anti-Mormon Crusades. Everything is still in place for an all-out assault on any polygamist organization of any kind, especially if they are in Utah. How else do you think the following was even possible?





Like I said, it already happened before. It can happen again. And it's a lot easier to do it under the banner of anti-discrimination.

Frankly, I was shocked that the lawsuit against the Knapps wasn't just thrown out of court. Taking legal action against individuals refusing to perform a gay marriage is a very short hop away from prosecuting entire religions. Weren't the Knapps ordained ministers in the first place? Wouldn't that fact have protected them? Apparently it didn't.
Twenty people living in the same house is not illegal. Neither is saying that you are married.

The Knapps were ministers, but they were operating a business.
A preacher that has a construction company is running a business, and has to follow the laws of operating a business.

The Knapps changed their business to a religious org, to get around the issue.
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Old 03-31-2015, 04:13 PM
 
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What does Membership only participating clubs, businesses i.e. Costco have NOTHING to do with this?
I've read this line a couple times and it still doesn't make any sense. I guess you're saying that businesses such as Curves are free to discriminate because a membership is required? So liberals are OK with a business not selling a membership to people based on their gender/race/etc? How is that not totally hypocritical?
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Old 03-31-2015, 04:22 PM
 
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Just remember. There is no Gay agenda.
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Old 03-31-2015, 04:24 PM
 
Location: Tip of the Sphere. Just the tip.
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Oh no... even NASCAR has Librul Bias now!

Where will it end??
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