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Old 03-31-2015, 01:10 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Ah, there are those damn conspiracy theories front and center again.
Conspiracy theory? What conspiracy theory? Did you not pay attention to any of the facts in the Zimmerman trial? There was no conspiracy.

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TM never got into a fight.
Baloney! What gives you that idea? Where did you get that info from? "Daily Kos" "Think Progress," MSNBC or Media Matters?

Please. You must not have followed this case at all. I did.

Articles: New Evidence Shows Trayvon's Life Unraveling

"Taking their cue from the Martin family's attorneys, Reuters ran the first national article on the shooting ten days after it happened. Zimmerman was a "loose cannon." He profiled Martin, stalked him, and shot him, disregarding police instructions. Martin, by contrast, was a "good kid." He had hoped to be a pilot. He was simply bringing the soon-to-be iconic iced tea and Skittles home to his "little brother.

This story was pure fable from the beginning, and the attorneys knew it. [MOD CUT/copyright violation]
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TM had no violent tendencies.
Completely false, and proven to be so.

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Trace amount of THC found his drug use was with weed. Weed doesn't make one aggressive, unless you already have some form of mental condition.

Now on the other hand you got GZ who had medications in him that caused aggression, as if he needed to be any more aggressive than he already is. Other side effects were anger and rage coupled with his poor self/impulse control, he was on a recipe for disaster.
No such evidence ever presented. This ia pure media spin. A complete fabrication.

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Old 03-31-2015, 01:11 PM
 
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First off I would never tell a woman who has reports of her husbands abuse that her injuries were insignificant. That's apples to oranges.

He went to the doctor at Altamonte Springs for a note to return to work, that was his first order of business. What he told the PA was what she testified to. He never put a medical document on record that backed his claim of a broken nose.

If you have that document that shows he did go to the specialist who proved his nose was broken, I've got eyes to see. Otherwise, this is just an allegation he stated so that his SD claim would look like SD.

I've read all the documents, none put on record that proves TM broke GZ's nose, cause it didn't happen.

Did he submit an Xray? An MRI? A CT scan? That's a sure way of proof. Not just his words.
If you claim that he was not examined and a medical report was not faxed to investigators, show us the link to that information.

Why don't you show us?
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Old 03-31-2015, 01:19 PM
 
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If you claim that he was not examined and a medical report was not faxed to investigators, show us the link to that information.

Why don't you show us?
You claimed he showed a document of a closed fracture, you can provide that, can't you?
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SANFORD, Fla. -- The day after the encounter that left 17-year-old Trayvon
Martin dead, George Zimmerman visited a doctor’s office in nearby Altamonte
Springs, where he was told his nose was “likely broken,” but
the wounds at the back of his head did not require stitches.

Those details – along with other notes on Zimmerman’s injuries and his health
in general – are revealed in a medical report prepared by a physician’s
assistant after a Feb. 27 visit.



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Medical report day after Trayvon Martin death says Zimmerman nose 'likely broken' - U.S. News


Likely broken doesn't equate to broken nose at all.

There is no such document of proof other than his visit to the PA.

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Old 03-31-2015, 01:23 PM
 
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Conspiracy theory? What conspiracy theory? Did you not pay attention to any of the facts in the Zimmerman trial? There was no conspiracy.


Baloney! What gives you that idea? Where did you get that info from? "Daily Kos" "Think Progress," MSNBC or Media Matters?

Please. You must not have followed this case at all. I did.

Articles: New Evidence Shows Trayvon's Life Unraveling

"Taking their cue from the Martin family's attorneys, Reuters ran the first national article on the shooting ten days after it happened. Zimmerman was a "loose cannon." He profiled Martin, stalked him, and shot him, disregarding police instructions. Martin, by contrast, was a "good kid." He had hoped to be a pilot. He was simply bringing the soon-to-be iconic iced tea and Skittles home to his "little brother.

This story was pure fable from the beginning, and the attorneys knew it. [MOD CUT/copyright violation] Completely false, and proven to be so.



No such evidence ever presented. This ia pure media spin. A complete fabrication.



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Martin's autopsy indicated that medical examiners found THC, the psychoactive
ingredient in marijuana, when they tested Martin's blood and urine. The amount
described in the autopsy report is such a low level that it would have played no
role in Martin's behavior, said Larry Kobilinsky, a professor of forensic
science at John Jay College of Criminal Justice in New York.

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Nearly 200 pages of documents released in Trayvon Martin shooting case | Fox News


A complete fabrication?

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Old 03-31-2015, 01:25 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Getting in fights and smoking weed makes you a thug?

Where are you folks from? Mayberry?

Why are you telling.me to "get over it?" I've been the most levelheaded guy on this thread.
"Level headed?" Really?

Do other people get into fights on a regular basis? I'd say he was a thug, yes. What else would you call a "street fighter?"

What does "Mayberry" have to do with anything? I followed this case. It was pretty much open and shut until Eric Holder & company went down to Florida to stir up trouble and do their usual race-baiting, just like they did in Ferguson last summer. They tried to paint Brown as a "nice kid" who would never hurt a fly, too. Even though he had just robbed a store. He traded his life for a fist full of stolen cigars.
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Old 03-31-2015, 01:26 PM
 
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Trayvon Martin's friends say he never picked a fight.

Starting a fight? Possibly high on drugs and up to no
good? No, friends say that description of Martin from the neighborhood
crime-watch volunteer who shot and killed the unarmed black teenager doesn't
match the young man they knew.

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Trayvon Martin's friends say he never picked a fight

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Old 03-31-2015, 01:29 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Done with this thread. I see no point in rehashing this entire case, in which Zimmerman was acquitted based on the evidence. I'm not wasting any more time on this.
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Old 03-31-2015, 01:31 PM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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So one jerk got himself killed and the other jerk got away with the killing. So what else is new?
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Old 03-31-2015, 01:46 PM
 
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You claimed he showed a document of a closed fracture, you can provide that, can't you?
You need to tune up your reading comprehension a lot.

Here is what I said:

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According to CNN, and other sources as well, Zimmerman went to be examined at the Altamonte Family Practice the next day and the report was faxed to the investigators.
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According to CNN, he was examined by a doctor who said his nose was fractured and the report was faxed to investigators. Are you saying this is false? If so, where is the link to such information?
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Did Dr. Rao examine Zimmerman? (Hint, no.)

What did the medical report made by the doctor who actually examined Zimmerman say?

George Zimmerman Medical Report Sheds Light on Injuries After Trayvon Martin Shooting - ABC News

Do you think a doctor who directly examined Zimmerman or a doctor who looked at photos would provide a better report?

From the New York Times:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/24/us...rtin.html?_r=1
You notice each time I said something to the effect of "here is what was reported" followed by links and quotes?

Yeah, that's how it works.

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Medical report day after Trayvon Martin death says Zimmerman nose 'likely broken' - U.S. News


Likely broken doesn't equate to broken nose at all.

There is no such document of proof other than his visit to the PA.
You see, your link backs up my links.

He went to be examined at the family practice he used, and they saw him in person.

Now, it still isn't 100% clear as to if a doctor saw him or a PA saw him, but the fact is that he was examined and they said his eyes were black, he had the lacerations to the back of his head and his nose was "likely broken". Do you understand what "likely broken" means? It means that the examiner believes the chances of it being broken were better than it not being broken.

So, your link and my links both support what I wrote and are counter to much of what you wrote.
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Old 03-31-2015, 01:50 PM
 
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Oh, his friends say he never picked a fight?

According to the New York Times:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/24/us...rtin.html?_r=1

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In one message, Mr. Martin described himself as “gangsta.” Other text messages refer to his involvement in fights and reveal an interest in guns, including an exchange about possibly buying one, referring to it as a .380.
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