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Old 04-02-2015, 07:38 AM
 
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Hi all,

I've realized through the years that aside from leaning towards fiscal conservatism, I actually agree with a lot of social conservative policies as well despite not being religious. Some of the values, such as traditions, a strong family unit, etc. are things I feel strongly about. Sure, there are some things I don't agree with, but in general, I feel much more in-tune with this than what democrats value socially.

Am I an outlier or are there lots of conservatives who feel this way?
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Old 04-02-2015, 07:43 AM
 
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I'd say not really. You'll find all sorts of combinations.

I'm very much a fiscal conservative, social moderate with somewhat libertarian ideas towards government Christian.

I think most more open minded people are kind of a hodgepodge of beliefs.
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Old 04-02-2015, 07:45 AM
 
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This is a weird question.
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Old 04-02-2015, 07:51 AM
 
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Hi all,

I've realized through the years that aside from leaning towards fiscal conservatism, I actually agree with a lot of social conservative policies as well despite not being religious. Some of the values, such as traditions, a strong family unit, etc. are things I feel strongly about. Sure, there are some things I don't agree with, but in general, I feel much more in-tune with this than what democrats value socially.

Am I an outlier or are there lots of conservatives who feel this way?
To conserve is to save. Conservatism believes there are something in life worth saving.

Many people confuse modern conservatism with racist white males, Christians who watch FOX news. LOL

According to wikipedia, Social conservatism is a group of political ideologies centred around preserving traditional beliefs, attitudes and philosophy, in the face of social progressivism.

nothing more or less.

So yes, you can be non religious and at the same time, socially conservative.

Conservatism is not the same as Christian social conservatism.
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Old 04-02-2015, 07:56 AM
 
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Hi all,

I've realized through the years that aside from leaning towards fiscal conservatism, I actually agree with a lot of social conservative policies as well despite not being religious. Some of the values, such as traditions, a strong family unit, etc. are things I feel strongly about. Sure, there are some things I don't agree with, but in general, I feel much more in-tune with this than what democrats value socially.

Am I an outlier or are there lots of conservatives who feel this way?
You are a bit of an outlier. But I'm with you, and there's room for you in the dark enlightenment.


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Old 04-02-2015, 08:06 AM
 
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Hi all,

I've realized through the years that aside from leaning towards fiscal conservatism, I actually agree with a lot of social conservative policies as well despite not being religious. Some of the values, such as traditions, a strong family unit, etc. are things I feel strongly about. Sure, there are some things I don't agree with, but in general, I feel much more in-tune with this than what democrats value socially.

Am I an outlier or are there lots of conservatives who feel this way?
I don't think you're an outlier. Although religious conservatives seem to me to be the tail wagging the dog - they are certainly making the most noise! - I am old enough to remember when they weren't so noisy, and there were still plenty of conservatives around.

Barry Goldwater was Mr. Conservative for many years, and he deeply distrusted religious conservatives.

Which makes it interesting to know that Phyllis Schafly was such a strong supporter of his...
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Old 04-02-2015, 09:01 AM
 
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Hi all,

I've realized through the years that aside from leaning towards fiscal conservatism, I actually agree with a lot of social conservative policies as well despite not being religious. Some of the values, such as traditions, a strong family unit, etc. are things I feel strongly about. Sure, there are some things I don't agree with, but in general, I feel much more in-tune with this than what democrats value socially.

Am I an outlier or are there lots of conservatives who feel this way?
No, many conservatives feel like you including me. The left loves to tell me I want to put people back in chains, the left tells me I have an issue with gay marriage and on and on. They are wrong. It's a bunch of BS.

Democrats are so far off fiscally and act like a bunch of extremist. Look at Barbara Lee who says global warming will increase prostitution as a recent example. The left is ridiculous and I can't align with that.
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Old 04-02-2015, 09:09 AM
 
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Hi all,

I've realized through the years that aside from leaning towards fiscal conservatism, I actually agree with a lot of social conservative policies as well despite not being religious. Some of the values, such as traditions, a strong family unit, etc. are things I feel strongly about. Sure, there are some things I don't agree with, but in general, I feel much more in-tune with this than what democrats value socially.

Am I an outlier or are there lots of conservatives who feel this way?
I think it's weird to care too much about how other people live. Plenty of non-conservatives believe in a strong family unit also, but a lot of people also realize that things sometimes happen and/or one's idea of family is different from another's. While I have a traditional nuclear family, I don't discount a single mom family or a family headed by a gay couple.

As for tradition, depends on what it is. I've had in laws try and use "tradition" to control my holidays and I've heard it used by religious conservatives to judge other people.
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Old 04-02-2015, 09:11 AM
 
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Hi all,

I've realized through the years that aside from leaning towards fiscal conservatism, I actually agree with a lot of social conservative policies as well despite not being religious. Some of the values, such as traditions, a strong family unit, etc. are things I feel strongly about. Sure, there are some things I don't agree with, but in general, I feel much more in-tune with this than what democrats value socially.

Am I an outlier or are there lots of conservatives who feel this way?
From the word conserve which means use less. Smaller government especially at the Federal level and the belief in states rights like the Constitution says.

Some of the values, such as traditions, a strong family unit, etc. are things I feel strongly about.

When I hear the family values thing I try to figure out who ISN"T for strong family values?
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Old 04-02-2015, 09:17 AM
 
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Not weird at all. In spite of the picture nut job liberals constantly try to paint not all conservatives are members of the westboro baptist church.

Conservative are more likely to be religious than liberals, but not all conservatives are religious
How Many Highly Religious Conservative Republicans Are There?

Keep in mind in their spin of the poll they're lumping moderates in with liberals which will skew the results.
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