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Old 04-07-2015, 08:54 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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that may be, but there are still many who believe that gay marriage is something they dont want to have anything to do with, even to the point of supporting such a union by providing goods and services. ones religion is not decided by polling data, but rather by ones relationship with their religion.
The point is that the majority of American Christians now believe that homosexuality is not a sin. Fortunately, they are accepting the fact that sexual orientation is not a choice.

 
Old 04-07-2015, 09:01 PM
 
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The point is that the majority of American Christians now believe that homosexuality is not a sin. Fortunately, they are accepting the fact that sexual orientation is not a choice.
its not up to americans as to what is a sin and what isnt, its up to god. he is the final judge.
 
Old 04-07-2015, 09:53 PM
 
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Anyone who truly follows Jesus's teachings would provide the pizza or cake 2X over for the wedding feast (Matthew 5:41), then dump out the water and replace it with wine (John 2:7-9).
 
Old 04-07-2015, 10:11 PM
 
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its not up to americans as to what is a sin and what isnt, its up to god. he is the final judge.
It is up to Americans to decide how we should govern and rule ourselves.

Furthermore, out of all the Christian denominations, which one is right? Would you be comfortable if America had followed a more Catholic route instead of a Protestant route?
 
Old 04-07-2015, 10:24 PM
 
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its not up to americans as to what is a sin and what isnt, its up to god. he is the final judge.
You seem to have skimmed right over the word Christians in that sentence.
 
Old 04-07-2015, 10:29 PM
 
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its not up to americans as to what is a sin and what isnt, its up to god. he is the final judge.
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You seem to have skimmed right over the word Christians in that sentence.
Nailed it.
 
Old 04-07-2015, 10:32 PM
 
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Where does Jesus mention killing someone is wrong? Can I now murder with impunity?
Many who profess to be Christians use this precise argument to support capital punishment and military aggression.
I'm just saying, not defending or dissing.
 
Old 04-07-2015, 11:13 PM
 
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It is up to Americans to decide how we should govern and rule ourselves.
if you are talking about the country itself, i agree. it is up to the american population to determine who rules and who does, and what laws we are to abide by. that said however, it is NOT up to the people at large to determine what is a sin and what isnt, again that is gods purview not ours.

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Furthermore, out of all the Christian denominations, which one is right? Would you be comfortable if America had followed a more Catholic route instead of a Protestant route?
which one is right? none of them are completely right as they all tend to pick and choose what they believe based on what some leaders interpreted what various passages are saying. as for which route is better, it doesnt matter to me.

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You seem to have skimmed right over the word Christians in that sentence.
it doesnt matter what human beings on this planet, or any other for that matter, believe is a sin or not. again that is gods purview not ours. you can certainly say that homosexuality is not a sin, however god might say something completely different, and does in fact.
 
Old 04-07-2015, 11:18 PM
 
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Many who profess to be Christians use this precise argument to support capital punishment and military aggression.
I'm just saying, not defending or dissing.
understand that the commandment that says thou shalt not kill, refers to unlawful killing. read this;

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"You shall not murder" (Hebrew לֹא תִּרְצָח lo tirṣaḥ) (incorrectly translated as You shall not kill (KJV) or Thou shalt not kill (LXX; οὐ φονεύσεις), is a moral imperative included as one of the Ten Commandments in the Torah,[1] specifically Exodus 20:13 and Deuteronomy 5:17.
The imperative is against unlawful killing resulting in bloodguilt.[2] The Hebrew Bible contains numerous prohibitions against unlawful killing, but also allows for justified killing in the context of warfare, capital punishment, and self-defense.
Thou shalt not kill - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

in reality the passage should read thou shalt not commit murder. if you were to actually read the bible you would find that it is full of allowances for capital punishment, self defense, and times of war.
 
Old 04-07-2015, 11:29 PM
 
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in reality the passage should read thou shalt not commit murder. if you were to actually read the bible you would find that it is full of allowances for capital punishment, self defense, and times of war.
Where did Jesus endorse capital punishment, self defense, and war?
edit to add: my apologies if you're a person of a different faith, ie. Judaism or Islam. In which case I respect (but don't agree with) the principles above.
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