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Old 04-03-2015, 02:44 PM
 
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Has there ever been a "deal" more guaranteed to fail, than this one?

The deal basically removes sanctions from Iran. Which were the only things that even brought Iran to the negotiating table in the first place. And as an extra bennie, it lets them enrich all the uranium they want, later on. (WTF???)

And it says that, if we find they are violating their promises to limit enrichment right now, we will put the sanctions back on.

But how do we find that? With inspections, of course.

And Iran already has a long record of blocking inspections, ignoring requests for information, and generally telling the world they'll do whatever they damned well please regardless of treaties, agreements, or laws.

They are basically a 13th-century version of the Democrat Party.

How can we possibly make an "agreement" with people who have violated that same agreement endlessly in the past?

Can "adults" possibly be that naïve and self-deluded? All for the sake of crafting an "achievement" they can later point to as part of their "legacy"... even as it falls apart faster than a sand castle at high tide? A tide that comes again and again, every time, as reliably as clockwork?

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Examples of Iran blocking and ignoring agreed-to inspections:

2015:
Iran isn

2014:
Iran Blocks Inspections, Hobbling Nuclear Deal - WSJ

2013:
Iran | Country Profiles | NTI

2012:
UN nuclear inspectors declare Iran mission a disappointment | World news | The Guardian

2011:
Iran, International Atomic Energy Agency chief to meet in Tehran on resuming nuclear inspections - CBS News
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Old 04-03-2015, 03:47 PM
 
Location: North Central Florida
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Perhaps the D's are laying the groundwork for the R's next bunch of excuses to start the next war.

When will people see that there is only one party? The Democrat/Republican thing is just an illusion to keep we the people divided amongst ourselves, and afford them the control they are always attempting to gain more of.

CN.......
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Old 04-03-2015, 03:50 PM
 
Location: Louisiana
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No surprise inspections?
Oh well, we can trust the Iranians.
What could go wrong?
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Old 04-03-2015, 03:51 PM
 
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More complaining from people that are afraid of this deal blocking their aspirations for a war with Iran. A war we can't win anyway.

Folks...get it through your head. There are no military options for us or Israel in regards to Iran. This is the only chance we have.
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Old 04-03-2015, 03:53 PM
 
Location: Louisiana
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More complaining from people that are afraid of this deal blocking their aspirations for a war with Iran. A war we can't win anyway.

Folks...get it through your head. There are no military options for us or Israel in regards to Iran. This is the only chance we have.
So the only choice is between war and a really bad deal?
The sanctions were working.
Once the sanctions are gone, they won't be back.
Russia and China will see to that.
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Old 04-03-2015, 03:56 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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So the only choice is between war and a really bad deal?
The sanctions were working.
Once the sanctions are gone, they won't be back.
Russia and China will see to that.
Exactly.

This "deal" is starting to seem more and more like legacy building by obama.
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Old 04-03-2015, 04:04 PM
 
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So the only choice is between war and a really bad deal?
The sanctions were working.
Once the sanctions are gone, they won't be back.
Russia and China will see to that.
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Exactly.

This "deal" is starting to seem more and more like legacy building by obama.
Get over it fellas...you may not like the deal, but you'll learn to live with it.

Iran isn't a threat to us regardless.

LMAO @ "the sanctions were working."

Uhhhh...no.
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Old 04-03-2015, 04:09 PM
 
Location: North Central Florida
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Wasn't one of the (many) reasons given for the rapid fall of gasoline prices at the pump earlier this year, that the sanctions against Iran were working?

Maybe that would hurt some pockets here at home, so, perhaps the sanctions had to go.......

CN.......
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Old 04-03-2015, 04:19 PM
 
Location: CO
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Wasn't one of the (many) reasons given for the rapid fall of gasoline prices at the pump earlier this year, that the sanctions against Iran were working?
No.
And prices are expected to fall again.
Prices dropped 5% the day it was announced.
With no export options, what do you think will happen when they're able to unleash their 20-30 million stored barrels?
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Old 04-03-2015, 04:21 PM
 
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Already noted in probably 5-6 similar threads.
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