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Old 04-19-2015, 09:16 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Those states already had some of the most highest wages in the country, especially Connecticut. It's hard to add on more when you're already at the top.
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Old 04-19-2015, 10:23 PM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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As measured by a liberal it probably is, not everyone defines "quality of life" as easy access to shopping or how high your salary is.

Red states' income growing faster than blue states'


Solved: Why Poor States Are Red and Rich States Are Blue - Forbes

Blue states, like California, New York and Illinois, whose economies turn on finance, trade and knowledge, are generally richer than red states. But red states, like Texas, Georgia and Utah, have done a better job over all of offering a higher standard of living relative to housing costs.
You first link only states the obvious, that red states have a ways to go to catch up to blue ones, and that it is a lot easier to go from 1 to 2, than it is to go from 5 to 10.

as for your Forbes link, Thats a flawed argument.

They are arguing that simply having a lower cost of living makes your state better. The article never once says more people make at or above the cost of living in those states named.

for example. This article is stating that cost of living being at 29,000 is a good thing, even if the majority of the people in the state make an average of 26,000

and that it is better than

cost of living being 45,000 and a majority of the population making exactly 45,000.
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Old 04-19-2015, 10:27 PM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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There is little to no difference between the two major parties. That is by design. The only reason that they are at odds with each other is because the conflict is manufactured to distract people from the reality that no matter who is in power nothing changes. Your vote does not count because the people who are really in power will never allow it. The purpose of democracy is to inhibit change. Hillary or Rubio, doesn't make much difference, though I would personally be more inclined to feel like showing my face abroad with Rubio in the White House - that way I won't have to answer "How did you let THAT happen?" if Hillary became president.
If you honestly believed there was no difference, then the bold wouldnt be in your post.
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Old 04-19-2015, 10:57 PM
 
Location: Aztlan
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If you honestly believed there was no difference, then the bold wouldnt be in your post.
There is no real difference between the two major parties. I just don't think that women should be in a leadership position over men, and certainly not Hillary. My opposition isn't because she is a Democrat as much as she is a woman and she is ... Hillary.
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Old 04-19-2015, 11:30 PM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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Yes, telling people that they should take responsibility for their own life choices must really irk you....
It's real easy to to claim some sort of moral high ground like this type of feel good point. However, we've always had poor people and always had people who make bad decisions. Personal responsibility wasn't a factor in America's growth or dominance; our resources, our government succeeding more often than failing, and our geography are why we dominated.

Personal responsibility is just some feel-goodery, pat yourself on the back type, ignoring reality type of excuse.
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Old 04-19-2015, 11:43 PM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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To the OP,

It's an urban vs rural thing, not red vs blue state. Industrialization has shifted the wealth to "cities", or more accurately metropolitan areas over the last century. It's quite astonishing the shift as wealth follows urbanization. Lastly, liberal/progressive work better in environments that are densely populated areas, where the wealth is. I think conservative policies (not socially conservative) work better nationally or on a larger scale while liberal policies work better for cities/MSAs.
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Old 04-19-2015, 11:46 PM
 
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There is no difference between Republican Democratic Polocies.

Because they are exactly the same. The U.S is a one party system with two factions.

the corporate Media is there to generate b.s stories to keep us busy.
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Old 04-19-2015, 11:53 PM
 
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66% of America's GDP comes from blue states; 34% comes from red states. GDP per capita of all blue states combined is 12% higher than it is in all red states combined. 9 of the 10 poorest states are red states. 8 of the top 10 states with the best public schools are blue states. Median wages are 15% higher in blue states. And obesity is more prevalent in red states. But Republicans claim that their policies lead to a stronger economy and society. Huh?!

Virtually every quality of life and well being measure is more favorable in blue states than red states.

can you put the sources you based your "facts".



Fact is, Republicans control 31 governorships and state legislatures compare to 18 governorships for the democrats......the Republican party controls the house and senate at the federal level.


That tells you the the majority of the American people trust more the Republican policies at the state, local level and trust more the Republican policies to run congress and manage the nation's money regardless of who is in the W.H.



I didn't know obesity was a party ideology issue......are the democrats going to ban soda, beer and fast foods?
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Old 04-20-2015, 12:03 AM
 
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There is no real difference between the two major parties. I just don't think that women should be in a leadership position over men, and certainly not Hillary. My opposition isn't because she is a Democrat as much as she is a woman and she is ... Hillary.
And...the war on women continues....
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Old 04-20-2015, 12:11 AM
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66% of America's GDP comes from blue states; 34% comes from red states. GDP per capita of all blue states combined is 12% higher than it is in all red states combined. 9 of the 10 poorest states are red states. 8 of the top 10 states with the best public schools are blue states.
A federal government borrowing heavily to buy from blue states' Northrup Grumman and Boeing and Lockheed and Westinghouse and GE and Oracle and Kaiser and Blue Cross Blue Shield and Anthem doesn't constitute standing on your own two feet. Borrowing heavily to fund minimum incomes in the form of EBT and WIC for NYC and Los Angeles and Oakland neighborhoods where half the populations are on public assistance doesn't qualify as unaided economic development, let alone sustainable GDP.

And Texas has the top ranked public schools.

Contrast with this:
http://nypost.com/2014/01/12/no-spac...st-elementary/

That's what a city income tax does for the progressive left.

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Median wages are 15% higher in blue states.
$200,000/yr. salaries for police and fire dept. servants in blue states, using state income tax revenue lifted from communities at the muzzle of state firepower, will do that for a wage.

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