If all unions were abolished, would retirees see their pension slip away? (illegal, lawyer)

[PedroMartinez]

Originally Posted by tom1944

I have no problem not making union membership voluntary. If we do so should those that do not join be denied the raises and benefits the union negotiates?

The unions should negotiate just for their members, and it should be up to employers to decide how they compensate their employees.

Additionally, there should not be any government employee unions.

[Kawena]

Originally Posted by PedroMartinez

The unions should negotiate just for their members, and it should be up to employers to decide how they compensate their employees.

Additionally, there should not be any government employee unions.

why negotiate?? take what they can!!! who gives a ****.. atleat thats how they do it in Washington, RIGHT????

they are elected official but they get to make their own pension plan, lets start with them first. After all we pay for theirs unlike the private sector.

[PedroMartinez]

Originally Posted by Kawena

why negotiate?? take what they can!!! who gives a ****.. atleat thats how they do it in Washington, RIGHT????

they are elected official but they get to make their own pension plan, lets start with them first. After all we pay for theirs unlike the private sector.

I was referring to unions that were in the private sector.

As I said, there should be no public employee unions.

Sorry if I didn't clarify properly.

[Quick Enough]

Originally Posted by jojajn

Many people, who are retired, currently receive "guaranteed" pension benefits under the Pension law https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/pension .

However, we have a couple presidential candidates who would like to abolish unions and the Pension law.

Scott Walker Says He Would Crush What’s Left Of Unions If Elected President

Christie set to argue his pension law is unconstitutional

How far do you right wing voters want to take this right wing agenda?

First they came for the the entitlement programs, and I did not speak out—........

Gee, ANOTHER anti Walker post by you. Surprise, surprise!

I did noticed you did NOT respond at all when a short while ago there was a post on Wisconsin's AND Walker winning a court battle.

Your silence says volumes.

You hate walker. We get it!

[Kracer]

Originally Posted by jojajn

Many people, who are retired, currently receive "guaranteed" pension benefits under the Pension law https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/pension .

However, we have a couple presidential candidates who would like to abolish unions and the Pension law.

Scott Walker Says He Would Crush What’s Left Of Unions If Elected President

Christie set to argue his pension law is unconstitutional

How far do you right wing voters want to take this right wing agenda?

First they came for the the entitlement programs, and I did not speak out—........

Your slippery slope theory would otherwise be known as a fringe conspiracy theory if proposed by a conservative.

[jojajn]

Originally Posted by PedroMartinez

ROFLMAO!!! Are you sure it's the right-wing agenda that wants to redistribute wealth down?

No, it is the right-wing agenda to redistribute wealth up!

[jojajn]

Originally Posted by PedroMartinez

Thank goodness you've finally seen the light.

You're right. People need to fight for their own wages and benefits. They need to stop believing they are entitled to such things while expecting the government and union pimps to provide them.

It's nice to witness your enlightenment.

BTW, you accidentally quoted me instead of the OP, but we all make mistakes.

I'm just glad we are on the same page.

Yep. Glad you see the light. We need to stop pimping and allowing the government to provide for businesses and companies. Economic Development Tax Credits to Grow Your Business in Wisconsin

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[wutitiz]

Originally Posted by HappyTexan

I read both articles and neither advocates abolishing unions or changing pension laws.

Where did you see that ? Please quote their statements about "abolishing unions".

I expect you will be waiting a long time for a response from OP on this.

[wutitiz]

Scott Walker Says He Would Crush What

This is typical headline fraud from the left. Walker never said that he would "crush what's left of unions." Those words are simply made up by the ThinkProgress writer. Poor form to stuff words into others' mouths.

[Ih2puo]

Republicans find it amusing to watch old poor people suffer. Take away their pensions Medicare Medicaid and social security! Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha