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Every single piece of the Patriot Act that was expiring got renewed in Congress and signed by President Obama. No debates whatsoever. Through the House, Senate, the Oval office all within a single day.
House
54 Democrats and 196 Republicans voted in favor.
122 Democrats and 31 Republicans voted no.
Senate
30 Democrats and 41 Republicans voted in favor.
18 Democrats and 4 Republicans voted no.
Rand Paul was able to hold up the vote while he demanded the opportunity to revise it obviously he did not prevail within his own party.
House
54 Democrats and 196 Republicans voted in favor.
122 Democrats and 31 Republicans voted no.
Senate
30 Democrats and 41 Republicans voted in favor.
18 Democrats and 4 Republicans voted no.
I wonder what pork was packed into it.
I'm talking about the renewals that came up since 2009.
No amendments were added. One glitch came up when Rand Paul acted up about it and they quickly silenced him and approved the renewal in 2011.
The renewals go until 2016.
We'll see how Hillary does next time they all come up for renewal.
I'm talking about the renewals that came up since 2009.
No amendments were added. One glitch came up when Rand Paul acted up about it and they quickly silenced him and approved the renewal in 2011.
The renewals go until 2016.
We'll see how Hillary does next time they all come up for renewal.
We are talking about the Patriot Extention Act, no?
I did go back and gave Rand Paul credit for trying in 2011.
This will be up for another renewal before the Republicans and Democrats decide who to nominate for 2016.
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Originally Posted by chuckmann View Post
Snowden revealed the unconstitutional spying on Americans by the government. That's not treason. That's the way it should be.
Who says Clinton was right? And if it was not right for Clinton, why is it right for the NSA?
Those who want government to spy on them should pack up and move to Russia or China or Iran. Such people do not deserve to live in a free society. end quote
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Originally Posted by workingclasshero
yes it is treason...... he violated HIS security clearance ...he violated HIS employers regulations....his employer being the USA..therefore plane and simply, he is a traitor
whether you agree with the policy or not..giving away state secrets is traitorous , and is certainly a violation of his oath
he VIOLATED his oath
[b] military oath:
"I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; [b]
CIA oath:
[b] The CIA oath reads: “I, [name], do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same;
snowden and manning both violated their oaths...disobeyed orders and regulations and laws
snowden crapped on the country
The FIRST item in both the Military oath AND the CIA oath demand support and defense of the Constitution against ALL enemies, both FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC. According to you, that part of th oath may be ignored at will so long as you are marching in lockstep with those who would destroy our freedom.
Check out how the government has stomped on NSA employees who tried to report NSA violations through the system:
"But they also sent a tacit warning to Senator Mitch McConnell, the Republican leader who is pushing to re-authorize the provision, known as Section 215, without modification: “There will be time then to address appellants’ constitutional issues.”
CIA oath:
The CIA oath reads: “I, [name], do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.”
Snowden is a hero and did not violate his oath. Obama violates his oath every day by continuing the NSA spying.
The CIA oath reads: “I, [name], do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic;
That is exactly what he did. Any time you have to disobey orders to support and defend the Constitution, you are a national hero.
Snowden has made our country better.
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