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Old 05-12-2015, 07:55 PM
 
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Couldn't rep you again Rambler but well said!

 
Old 05-12-2015, 08:01 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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The OP didn't post the numbers from the survey, but the Christians of all denominations declined from 78% to 70%. It has to do with the fact that the older, more religious generations are dying off and are being replaced by millenials, who are the most non-religious generation in this country's history. Soon you'll see some of these megachurches profits being hit.
Praise Jesus.
 
Old 05-12-2015, 08:08 PM
 
Location: SoCal & Mid-TN
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Precisely.

When the organized religions can come up with something better than spouting off about who God tells us to hate (based upon the parts of the Old Law that they still want to belief while ignoring the rest), why we need to turn our backs on science and reason and idiotically replace metaphor with literalness, and why we need to keep giving money to fund their mansions and monuments, maybe people will consider coming back.

If I had a dollar for every time in recent years - especially since about 2008 and the rise of the Tea Party - I've seen some two-bit preacher spewing hatred and ignorance from the pulpit, I could fund my own faux Bible college and carefully teach people Scripture taken out of context just like they do, all while skipping over those inconvenient parts, like loving thy neighbor, not being a judgmental tool, not worshiping the wealthy and powerful, and so on.

True Christian belief these days is practically anathema to what passes for religion in the mind of the hard-liners, so it's no wonder that people are fleeing organized religion in droves while still maintaining a degree of spirituality or limited religions identity.
^^^This.
 
Old 05-12-2015, 08:11 PM
 
Location: Japan
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The OP didn't post the numbers from the survey, but the Christians of all denominations declined from 78% to 70%. It has to do with the fact that the older, more religious generations are dying off and are being replaced by millenials, who are the most non-religious generation in this country's history. Soon you'll see some of these megachurches profits being hit.
If YouTube is any indication, atheism is way more popular with kids today than in past generations. The interenet itself seems to have made a difference. All the arguments against the claims of the major religions, stuff most people never would have heard 30 years ago, are readily availible to the masses.
 
Old 05-12-2015, 09:05 PM
 
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The OP didn't post the numbers from the survey, but the Christians of all denominations declined from 78% to 70%. It has to do with the fact that the older, more religious generations are dying off and are being replaced by millenials, who are the most non-religious generation in this country's history. Soon you'll see some of these megachurches profits being hit.
Actually, Pew found that the decline cut across all demographics.

Religion in America: U.S. Religious Data, Demographics and Statistics | Pew Research Center
 
Old 05-12-2015, 09:27 PM
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Precisely.

When the organized religions can come up with something better than spouting off about who God tells us to hate (based upon the parts of the Old Law that they still want to belief while ignoring the rest), why we need to turn our backs on science and reason and idiotically replace metaphor with literalness, and why we need to keep giving money to fund their mansions and monuments, maybe people will consider coming back.

If I had a dollar for every time in recent years - especially since about 2008 and the rise of the Tea Party - I've seen some two-bit preacher spewing hatred and ignorance from the pulpit, I could fund my own faux Bible college and carefully teach people Scripture taken out of context just like they do, all while skipping over those inconvenient parts, like loving thy neighbor, not being a judgmental tool, not worshiping the wealthy and powerful, and so on.

True Christian belief these days is practically anathema to what passes for religion in the mind of the hard-liners, so it's no wonder that people are fleeing organized religion in droves while still maintaining a degree of spirituality or limited religions identity.
Best post I've read all day.
 
Old 05-12-2015, 09:35 PM
 
Location: Austin
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The OP didn't post the numbers from the survey, but the Christians of all denominations declined from 78% to 70%. It has to do with the fact that the older, more religious generations are dying off and are being replaced by millenials, who are the most non-religious generation in this country's history. Soon you'll see some of these megachurches profits being hit.
The self esteem generation. The most worthless one ... but not because they aren't religious.
 
Old 05-12-2015, 10:01 PM
 
Location: San Diego CA
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Christopher Hitchens would be pleased. A gradual trend toward rationality.
 
Old 05-12-2015, 10:20 PM
 
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I'm personally torn on the issue. I think Christianity and a strong religious faith provide parameters in which people individually, and society collectively, lead productive, healthy lives. I think a loss of faith will somewhat unmoor society and lead to "anything goes" behavior. On the flip side of that, virtually every organized Christian group I've been to fails to be welcoming, intellectual, or even charitable. Religion does itself no favors in my eyes.
I very much agree with the bolded part. We are already seeing the "anything goes" behavior and it will only get worse as people reject faith.

The second part.. well sorry you had a bad experience. The Christian churches I have been to do so much for the community. Give food and water to those in need, hold fundraisers, build houses for disadvantaged people, help clean up from natural disasters, mission trips too. They do a lot.

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We're more educated than ever before so this why
You are kidding right?

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Praise Jesus.
You're so happy, huh? Glad that "evil" old book that guides you toward a better life won't be as important anyone, so now you can be as immoral and nasty as you want right?! I mean, why not? There will nobody telling you not to. And then the world becomes a free for all.
 
Old 05-12-2015, 11:40 PM
 
Location: Delray Beach
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Hopefully ALL religions will drift into disuse and obscurity except for the ritual of holidays... especially the fun ones.

And non-religious folks aren't anti-Christian, per se, but that's where most American atheists start out and therefore that's the religion they usually abandon.
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