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Old 05-14-2015, 04:21 AM
 
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Old 05-14-2015, 05:15 AM
 
Location: Florida
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So what would be the replacement?
They will be using www.healthcare.gov aka Obamacare. I don't think the OP understood what she read in the article.

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Old 05-14-2015, 05:43 AM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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IIRC Hawaii already had a state program that guaranteed health care to anyone who had a job. So it looks like they just threw away $205 million. And I'm going to take a wild guess and say that the $205 million went into the pockets of people who donated heavily to various liberal Democrat political campaigns.
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Old 05-14-2015, 06:19 AM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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They will be using www.healthcare.com aka Obamacare. I don't think the OP understood what she read in the article.
At least until late June when King vs. Burwell is revealed, and healthcare.gov is possibly no longer able to transmit health care subsidies.
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Old 05-14-2015, 06:45 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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It boggles the mind that one can spend 205 million dollars on what appears to be a relatively simply IT project and come away with nothing. I doubt it is just ACA projects that are flawed. These states (and the fed) need to look at crony contracting arrangements that have become the bane of government as more and more services once provided directly are passed out to the private sector. The private sector is indeed more efficient - at fleecing the taxpayer.
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Old 05-14-2015, 07:28 AM
 
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So what would be the replacement?


What do you think we had prior to the debacle we have today?
Sure it had some gaps that needed to be tweaked, but the liberals have been clamoring for government healthcare for 50+ years. They somehow think the government does things better, which is a fallacy in and of itself.
Sure we need the federal government for a national military/defense and a few other things. However by and large the system we had in place for healthcare before worked.
Yet the leftists would have us believe people we dragging around broken legs on the street due to them not being able to get them fixed. That the gun & knife club would shooting/stabbing themselves and being left to die in the streets for lack of insurance.
It was absurd then, but that didn't stop the activists from promoting such ideas to the point average mindless Kardashian followers believed it.

We need to create portability in the previous system, and remove pre-existing conditions as an excluder. Those will add to the costs, but I believe they should be done. We should also create a system where competition occurs beyond state boundaries like it did. If you and/or your employer can shop and buy insurance from a less expensive source, companies will be forced to compete and the marketplace will reduce cost with competition.

As to those who are uninsured for whatever reason, they still have the ability to receive care just like they did, but with more limited choices, and not the perks like private rooms, choices of MD's, etc.
They were getting care (both emergency & definitive) despite what the propagandists were claiming.
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Old 05-14-2015, 09:09 AM
 
Location: Chesapeake Bay
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What do you think we had prior to the debacle we have today?
Sure it had some gaps that needed to be tweaked, but the liberals have been clamoring for government healthcare for 50+ years. They somehow think the government does things better, which is a fallacy in and of itself.
Sure we need the federal government for a national military/defense and a few other things. However by and large the system we had in place for healthcare before worked.
Yet the leftists would have us believe people we dragging around broken legs on the street due to them not being able to get them fixed. That the gun & knife club would shooting/stabbing themselves and being left to die in the streets for lack of insurance.
It was absurd then, but that didn't stop the activists from promoting such ideas to the point average mindless Kardashian followers believed it.

We need to create portability in the previous system, and remove pre-existing conditions as an excluder. Those will add to the costs, but I believe they should be done. We should also create a system where competition occurs beyond state boundaries like it did. If you and/or your employer can shop and buy insurance from a less expensive source, companies will be forced to compete and the marketplace will reduce cost with competition.

As to those who are uninsured for whatever reason, they still have the ability to receive care just like they did, but with more limited choices, and not the perks like private rooms, choices of MD's, etc.
They were getting care (both emergency & definitive) despite what the propagandists were claiming.
Hard to believe that someone would actually post this. Or even believe it.

I am no fan of ACA but what this country had before it was far worse. This country needs some form of universal health coverage, perhaps a variation of Medicare for all.

It would be nice to see ACA fail because then most of the health insurance companies would fold. ACA is the only thing keeping them going.
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Old 05-14-2015, 09:18 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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So what would be the replacement?
The FedGov website like the other smart states chose.
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Old 05-14-2015, 09:34 AM
 
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Obviously if Hawaii cannot afford Obamacare it should not exist as a state in the first place.
hahaha, I absolutely loved your reply
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Old 05-14-2015, 09:37 AM
 
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They will be using www.healthcare.gov aka Obamacare. I don't think the OP understood what she read in the article.
So it'll be the very same thing left wingers have been whining about Republican states using.
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