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Old 06-02-2015, 03:29 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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After this I bet the person that hired this girl got a good talking to about future hiring practices.

 
Old 06-02-2015, 03:30 PM
 
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I wonder what the opinion would be if it was a Christian being told they couldn't wear a cross necklace, or a Jew not being allowed to wear a head cover. It's that these items aren't about looks, dress or style. They are religious items and it's illegal to discriminate based on that.
It would be exactly the same.
So why are these seven Jewish groups getting involved in a case brought for a Muslim woman? Well, as Nathan Lewin, the lawyer for these Jewish organizations, explained to the Los Angeles Times, men and women in the orthodox Jewish communities have also faced discrimination when applying for certain jobs because the men wear yarmulkes and want to take the Sabbath off from work as part of their faith. Lewin noted, “It is important that these Orthodox Jewish groups express support for this Muslim woman who has had a similar experience.”

Muslims & Jews Unite vs. Abercrombie & Fitch - The Daily Beast
 
Old 06-02-2015, 03:30 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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What kind of nonsense are you on about? Their dress code says hats and scarves are not to be worn
by employees while on the job. She is being treated just like any other employee. Everyone has to obey the dress code if they want to work there. You don't like the dress code then don't work there find another place that allows you dress the way you want or start your own company. Every company has their own rules that everyone has to follow. Workers can't just do whatever they want.




Since when does a private business have to make accomodation for someone's religion?
I'm sure some companies do but that is their own choice they should not be forced to do so,
particularly when it could or would be a disruption to their business.

Practice religion on your own time, not company time. That's what a church or mosque is for.
The ruling is absurd.
Read below -I stole from post #82, then make your case that this doesn't violate the act.

"Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 that prohibits a prospective employer from refusing to hire an applicant in order to avoid accommodating a religious practice that it could accommodate without undue hardship."


"Since when does a private business have to make accommodation for someone else religion", ever since the Civil Rights Act was passed.

This part of the law is broad and this may not have been their intention, you can argue that you don't like it but this is the rule.
 
Old 06-02-2015, 03:34 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Actually,

The United States Constitution applies to the government, not to corporations. A private business, large or small, can legally ignore your freedom of speech. Where your employer is concerned, you have no such right.

But employers routinely monitor telephone calls, e-mail, Web site visits, and virtually every other type of electronic communication.

Did you know you could be fired for not removing a political sticker from your car — or even having a beer after work?

Can Employers Do That? Turns Out, They Can: Exploring Workers' Rights : NPR

Washington post called this case

victory is a win for all Americans.

LOL I don't think I've won anything.

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Old 06-02-2015, 03:38 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Read below -I stole from post #82, then make your case that this doesn't violate the act.

"Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 that prohibits a prospective employer from refusing to hire an applicant in order to avoid accommodating a religious practice that it could accommodate without undue hardship."


"Since when does a private business have to make accommodation for someone else religion", ever since the Civil Rights Act was passed.

This part of the law is broad and this may not have been their intention, you can argue that you don't like it but this is the rule.
That is right. It is the rule indeed.
 
Old 06-02-2015, 03:40 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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The hijab is a religious symbol of "modesty".

And she wanted to work at Abercrombie Kids ?
Have you seen some of their kids' clothing line ?

Did she intend to get these customers NOT to buy their clothing ?
 
Old 06-02-2015, 03:42 PM
 
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Originally Posted by WeHa View Post
I wonder what the opinion would be if it was a Christian being told they couldn't wear a cross necklace, or a Jew not being allowed to wear a head cover. It's that these items aren't about looks, dress or style. They are religious items and it's illegal to discriminate based on that.
Requiring secular attire does not constitute religious discrimination.
 
Old 06-02-2015, 03:42 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Goodnight View Post
Read below -I stole from post #82, then make your case that this doesn't violate the act.

"Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 that prohibits a prospective employer from refusing to hire an applicant in order to avoid accommodating a religious practice that it could accommodate without undue hardship."


"Since when does a private business have to make accommodation for someone else religion", ever since the Civil Rights Act was passed.

This part of the law is broad and this may not have been their intention, you can argue that you don't like it but this is the rule.

So the US government would be forced to accomodate someone's religious practice when it hires them?
That would be in violation of the First Amendment Establishment Clause (separation between church and state), and that part of the Civil Rights Act is unconstitutional.
 
Old 06-02-2015, 03:51 PM
 
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So the US government would be forced to accomodate someone's religious practice when it hires them?
The government is forced to accommodate.

Quote:
That would be in violation of the First Amendment Establishment Clause (separation between church and state), and that part of the Civil Rights Act is unconstitutional.
Wrong.
 
Old 06-02-2015, 03:54 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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The government is forced to accommodate.



Wrong.
The USG is the last one to accommodate.
The USG lives by a different set of rules.
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