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Old 06-09-2015, 08:28 AM
 
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Vote pro marijuana candidates this election cycle screw Chris Christy the troll under the bridge ...
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Old 06-09-2015, 08:31 AM
 
Location: A great city, by a Great Lake!
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The government has a patent on canniboids (spelling?) for making the next generation of pharmaceutical drugs but still insists there is no medicinal value!
420 legalization now free's up space for real criminals!

Bunch of sheisters! It's time to git r dun! End the damn un-Constitutional ban, and stop criminalizing those who partake in, possess or grow cannabis!
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Old 06-09-2015, 08:33 AM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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I have never heard him say he supports legalizing it. Only Congress can legalize it. The White House can choose to not enforce the federal marijuana laws in States which have legalized it, which is what they are doing, but the WH cannot change the law.

You need to educate yourself about how the country works.
How exactly does that work? Could a pro-gun president opt not to enforce the National Firearms Act of 1934 in states that decided to remove restrictions on full-auto firearms? Could an anti-tax prez opt not to collect federal income taxes in states that decided that their residents didn't have to pay? When is the POTUS able to override laws duly passed by Congress, and when not? Educate me on how this works....
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Old 06-09-2015, 08:45 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Well.... given that there was no amemdment to the Constitution implemented for prohibition of cannabis in the first place, as with alcohol, I'd say trying to enforce the federal ban is un-Constitutional. How convenient, eh?
Is there am amendment to make murder illegal? Your argument is silly.
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Old 06-09-2015, 08:56 AM
 
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Is there am amendment to make murder illegal? Your argument is silly.
What does murder have to do with burning a joint?
Reefer Madness is so Boeotian it belongs in the ash heap of history...
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Old 06-09-2015, 09:19 AM
 
Location: Florida
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What does murder have to do with burning a joint?
Reefer Madness is so Boeotian it belongs in the ash heap of history...
Is there, or is there not, a Constitutional amendment making murder illegal?

The claim was that unless a crime is mentioned in the Constitution, then it should not be valid. I said it is a silly argument, and used murder as another example which is illegal while not being mentioned in the Constitution.
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Old 06-09-2015, 09:25 AM
 
Location: Florida
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How exactly does that work? Could a pro-gun president opt not to enforce the National Firearms Act of 1934 in states that decided to remove restrictions on full-auto firearms? Could an anti-tax prez opt not to collect federal income taxes in states that decided that their residents didn't have to pay? When is the POTUS able to override laws duly passed by Congress, and when not? Educate me on how this works....
It is called 'prosecutorial discretion". It was brought up when the WH said they planned the immigration amnesty attempt.

Obama Immigration Executive Action: Why It Will Be Legal | The New Republic

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A president may choose to not enforce particular laws when deciding how to allocate scarce resources or based on his view of the best public policy. Few object, for example, when the Department of Justice does not prosecute those who possess small amounts of marijuana, even though they violated the federal Controlled Substance Act. There are countless federal laws that go unenforced. In 1800, then congressman and later Chief Justice John Marshall stated, the president may “direct that the criminal be prosecuted no further” because it is “the exercise of an indubitable and constitutional power.”

The president’s broad prosecutorial discretion has been repeatedly recognized by the courts. In 2013, Judge Brett Kavanaugh of the D.C. Circuit, appointed by George W. Bush, offered a strong defense: “The president may decline to prosecute certain violators of federal law just as the president may pardon certain violators of federal law,” Judge Kavanaugh wrote. “The president may decline to prosecute or may pardon because of the president’s own constitutional concerns about a law or because of policy objections to the law, among other reasons.”

Indeed, presidents of both parties have tailored immigration policy to their own goals. In 1987, the Reagan administration took executive action to limit deportations for 200,000 Nicaraguan exiles, even those who had been turned down for asylum. Similarly, President George H.W. Bush in 1990 limited deportations of Chinese students and in 1991 kept hundreds of Kuwait citizens from being deported.
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Old 06-09-2015, 09:26 AM
 
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Is there am amendment to make murder illegal? Your argument is silly.

So, why did they go through the proper channels by amending prohibition of alcohol, and then another amendment to repeal it, yet no such thing was done with cannabis? Convenient, huh? It never was nor is to this day about what is good for you or what is not! It's all about pandering to special interests that fear they'll lose money from legalizing it! I realize you're against people using cannabis, so of course you're going to deflect with some BS analogy such as murder vs cannabis use! But it's total hypocrisy to go through the proper channels for one susbtance like alcohol, but not the other in the case of cannabis!

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What does murder have to do with burning a joint?
Reefer Madness is so Boeotian it belongs in the ash heap of history...

NOTHING!
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Old 06-09-2015, 10:28 AM
 
Location: Florida
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So, why did they go through the proper channels by amending prohibition of alcohol, and then another amendment to repeal it, yet no such thing was done with cannabis? Convenient, huh? It never was nor is to this day about what is good for you or what is not! It's all about pandering to special interests that fear they'll lose money from legalizing it! I realize you're against people using cannabis, so of course you're going to deflect with some BS analogy such as murder vs cannabis use! But it's total hypocrisy to go through the proper channels for one susbtance like alcohol, but not the other in the case of cannabis!
No answer
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Old 06-09-2015, 10:36 AM
 
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You have my answer. How about YOU answer as to why there was a Constitutional Amendment for prohibition of alcohol a mind altering substance too, and a Constitutional Amendment to repeal it, but yet the same protocol was not followed with cannabis? Sorry Finn, but the prohibitionist logic of "because I said so" ain't gonna cut it here! It's about nothing more than MONEY, and the federal government pandering to their cronies!
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