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Old 06-18-2015, 05:34 AM
 
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Obama didn't do much because he's at heart a conservative. Only on social issues like gay marriage and abortion can Obama be called a liberal. It's sad that Rush Limbaugh and Faux News have convinced low information Tea Party peabrains that he's a socialist when he kept the Bush tax cuts, made no serious gun control effort, kept Wall Street and our markets deregulated, conspired to kill unions and is pushing the Pacific free trade agreement. The biggest achievement of his presidency has been passing Romneyca...oops i mean Obamacare.
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Old 06-18-2015, 07:30 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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So which bloody narrative is it now? Things are worse or they're better? Things got worse under seven years of Obama, but if things are getting better than it's Republicans obstructionism that's the reason.

***** please...
Things got worse when Nancy and Harry were running the Congress in GW last 2 years and he failed to stalemate the government and acquiesced to their lunacy. Than became much worse the first 2 years when Obama, Nancy and harry had unrestricted access to all govt. power and ran up the highest deficits in US history by borrowing from the Chinese to give Trillions to their rich fat cat buddies on Wall Street that got them elected. Then started getting better when Boehner and his friends in Congress stopped the lunacy and it's getting even better with McConnell and Boehner stopping Obama (this is undeniable).
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Old 06-18-2015, 08:11 AM
 
Location: The Dirty South.
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It might be time to find sources other than Fox News and talk radio if you want to learn any actual facts. Compared to where things were when he took over, there is no rational dispute that Obama has made substantial, quantifiable improvements in many areas.

GDP is up
Stock market is at record highs
Job growth best in more than a decade
Disengagement and drawdown from two foreign wars
Largest reduction in number of people without health insurance ever in history of US
DADT gone
DOMA gone
Legalized gay marriage a virtual certainty nationwide
Shhhh the Obama haters don't want to hear that.
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Old 06-18-2015, 09:27 AM
 
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Hilarious.

I didn't post one sentence. I posted an entire article. Clearly, what you KNEW was erroneous.

Once again, the ENTIRE article:

Biden: Mitch McConnell vowed no cooperation with the Obama administration from the get-go
So show us where Mitch said he "vowed NO cooperation with the Obama administration"

McConnell said, "To deny Obama a second term" is ALL you posted video shows

The "whole" article does NOT say anything else.

I repeat. Post the ENTIRE thing McConnell said also his explanation when he was asked about it.

Context IS important.

What Mitch was referring to was the re-election of Obama. NOT what you and many on the left LIKE to claim what he was talking about.

"McConnell made his remarks in an interview that appeared in the National Journal on Oct. 23, 2010 — nearly two years after Obama was elected president. The interview took place on the eve the of the midterm elections."

"
NJ: What does this mean now?
McConnell: We need to be honest with the public. This election is about them, not us. And we need to treat this election as the first step in retaking the government. We need to say to everyone on Election Day, “Those of you who helped make this a good day, you need to go out and help us finish the job.”
NJ: What’s the job?
McConnell: The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president.
NJ: Does that mean endless, or at least frequent, confrontation with the president?
McConnell: If President Obama does a Clintonian backflip, if he’s willing to meet us halfway on some of the biggest issues, it’s not inappropriate for us to do business with him."

"
NJ: What are the big issues?
McConnell: It is possible the president’s advisers will tell him he has to do something to get right with the public on his levels of spending and [on] lowering the national debt. If he were to heed that advice, he would, I imagine, find more support among our conference than he would among some in the Senate in his own party. I don’t want the president to fail; I want him to change. So, we’ll see. The next move is going to be up to him.'

Looks a bit different then what your "un-biased' articles and you say doesn't it?

Like I said, context DOES matter.
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Old 06-18-2015, 09:32 AM
 
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McConnell said, "To deny Obama a second term" is ALL you posted video shows

The "whole" article does NOT say anything else.


I didn't post a VIDEO. I posted an ENTIRE article. That clearly lays out the Republican intention to be obstructionist about ANY proposals made by the Obama administration. IN 2008.
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Old 06-18-2015, 11:23 PM
 
Location: Purgatory
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These threads are 7 years of the same.
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Old 06-19-2015, 12:17 AM
 
Location: U.S. (East Coast)
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Default 1,090 well sourced examples of Obama’s lying, lawbreaking, corruption, cronyism, hypocrisy, waste, etc.

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Come on now, obamas done plenty in those years. If you don't believe me, take a look:

https://danfromsquirrelhill.wordpres.../15/obama-252/
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Old 06-19-2015, 12:26 AM
 
Location: North America
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Republican here...rather have 7 years of do nothing than a bunch of years of pointless wars.
*fist bump*
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Old 06-21-2015, 03:28 PM
 
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Originally Posted by newtoks
It might be time to find sources other than Fox News and talk radio if you want to learn any actual facts. Compared to where things were when he took over, there is no rational dispute that Obama has made substantial, quantifiable improvements in many areas.

GDP is up
Stock market is at record highs
Job growth best in more than a decade
Disengagement and drawdown from two foreign wars
Largest reduction in number of people without health insurance ever in history of US
DADT gone
DOMA gone
Legalized gay marriage a virtual certainty nationwide


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Shhhh the Obama haters don't want to hear that.
Right. I mean, lets be serious. If you don't like him because he is a Demo or Black or a Muslim or whatever.....be honest. If not, you lose all credibility and make yourself look like a far right lugnut job
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Old 06-21-2015, 04:02 PM
 
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Things would have gotten better in both 1980 and 2008 regardless. This does not mean government actions have no effect. The situation Reagan inherited, stagflation, was the more difficult one to solve. McCain and Obama were not much apart in their recommended stimulus package when it came to total dollars. McCain wanted a bit more tax relief and Obamaa bit more spending.
Umm, No. Reagan , and by Reagan I mean the Fed, had more powerful tools to bring to the fight against the recession. The situation Reagan inherited was one of runaway inflation. The Fed raised interest rates, which slowed this inflation, then lowered interest rates...instant boom.


Obama and Reagan: A tale of two recoveries - Feb. 6, 2012
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