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Old 06-21-2015, 07:22 PM
 
Location: Stasis
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Two fired over their social media posts about the Charleston massacre:

A Texas Fireman was fired for posting that Roof "needs to be praised for the good deed he has done.",

and a teen in Las Vegas -a Regal Cinema employee - for a series of tweets that included "Don’t complain about being a minority and say whites are a problem when your ancestors chose to come here knowing they would be a minority" and "Half of minorities might as well have “you should feel bad for being white” tattooed on their foreheads."

The teen's feed included a photo of her Regal Cinema uniform and she later posted an exchange with her immediate manager:
"Is my job effected by my opinion on Twitter?"
"No you work tomorrow social media has no affiliation with our corporation. See you then"

Corporate office overruled the supposed manager saying "The alleged text from her GM is false.... The individual [Hyley DiBona] does not represent Regal Entertainment Group. Her comments are offensive and she has engaged in behavior that violates everything which Regal stands for."

Yes, you have free speech but if you post it you own it.

Addicting Info – Racist Employees Fired After Praising Dylann Roof For ‘The Good Deed He Has Done’ (IMAGES)

http://www.inquisitr.com/2186942/cha...racist-tweets/

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Old 06-21-2015, 07:29 PM
 
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Two fired over their social media posts about the Charleston massacre:

A Texas Fireman was fired for posting that Roof "needs to be praised for the good deed he has done.",

and a teen in Las Vegas -a Regal Cinema employee - for a series of tweets that included "Don’t complain about being a minority and say whites are a problem when your ancestors chose to come here knowing they would be a minority" and "Half of minorities might as well have “you should feel bad for being white” tattooed on their foreheads."

The teen's feed included a photo of her Regal Cinema uniform and she later posted an exchange with her immediate manger:
"Is my job effected by my opinion on Twitter?"
"No you work tomorrow social media has no affiliation with our corporation. See you then"
Corporate office overruled the manager,

Yes, you have free speech but if you post it you own it.

Addicting Info – Racist Employees Fired After Praising Dylann Roof For ‘The Good Deed He Has Done’ (IMAGES)
Let's see if we get the political correctness cries. If we don't we know those posters are hypocrites when it comes to their cries of thought police.


Again, if you are against people being fired for thinking the wrong things and expressing those thoughts out loud, then these two people should inspire a lot of defenders.

I suspect they won't, which highlights that people recognize a person can say something or hold views outside of the mainstream and be punished for expressing that opinion which is how it's always been in every human society.

This thread is proof the whole political correctness, thought police, freedom of speech argument is bs.

Either rally for these two or be proven irrelevant
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Old 06-21-2015, 07:37 PM
 
Location: Aztlan
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Let's see if we get the political correctness cries. If we don't we know those posters are hypocrites when it comes to their cries of thought police.


Again, if you are against people being fired for thinking the wrong things and expressing those thoughts out loud, then these two people should inspire a lot of defenders.

I suspect they won't, which highlights that people recognize a person can say something or hold views outside of the mainstream and be punished for expressing that opinion which is how it's always been in every human society.

This thread is proof the whole political correctness, thought police, freedom of speech argument is bs.

Either rally for these two or be proven irrelevant
Actually, you just proved that the politically correct thought police environment exists, because you deny the ability of a person to speak freely without chilling effects by saying that anyone who defends the right of these people to speak must also agree with the content. It is quite possible to disagree with what these people said but support their right to say it without putting their livelihood at risk. And who gets to decide what is "unacceptable". You have done it, and thus are part of the thought police. You are a fascist.
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Old 06-21-2015, 07:40 PM
 
Location: Texas
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The Free Market speaks. Those companies would have lost some customers had they retained those repulsive employees. They didn't need government to tell them what to do.
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Old 06-21-2015, 07:49 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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getting fired or not hired for what you post on social media is quite common today.... and rightfully so

when you post (showing an affiliation with a place of employment ), you need to bbe professional in all aspects of your posts.... yes you are entitled to an opinion, but especially f you are SHOWING that affiliation, you need to act/post professionally (ie you are representing)

the same rules apply within the military...as an individual I can go to political rallies, and other organizational rallies (ie even the gay parade).... but NOT IN UNIFORM


just coming back from overseas, I have seen a lot of AFN (armed forces network) commercials (some are real corny) ... but one hit the mark....{{ was a well dressed guy interviewing for a job...the interviewer states....great school record, great performance record, great resume, great interview....but sorry we wont hire you, look at you social media, showing drunken bashes and unprofessional ethics.......}} ...the commercial hits the spot, how you represent yourself on social media, also reflects how you will represent the company , corporation or country.... its the same with people bashing their employers online.... do they really thiink they are going to keep that job or get a raise????
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Old 06-21-2015, 07:53 PM
 
Location: TN/NC
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Roof is a sicko that deserves every bit of condemnation he gets. Murder is never an option. Still, I think there does need to be more serious conversation on white people always have to take a backseat and have no political advocates.
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Old 06-21-2015, 07:54 PM
 
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Actually, you just proved that the politically correct thought police environment exists, because you deny the ability of a person to speak freely without chilling effects by saying that anyone who defends the right of these people to speak must also agree with the content. It is quite possible to disagree with what these people said but support their right to say it without putting their livelihood at risk. And who gets to decide what is "unacceptable". You have done it, and thus are part of the thought police. You are a fascist.
You obviously do not understand free speech. Common but too bad.

The government cannot interfere with your right to free speech...but other people and things sure can and should. If you associate your employer or even your volunteer FD with things they don't agree with or which could cause them business problems they can openly and fairly respond. And should..

Looks like two good hits.
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Old 06-21-2015, 08:48 PM
 
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You obviously do not understand free speech. Common but too bad.

The government cannot interfere with your right to free speech...but other people and things sure can and should. If you associate your employer or even your volunteer FD with things they don't agree with or which could cause them business problems they can openly and fairly respond. And should..

Looks like two good hits.
Would you then say an employer should be able to fire someone based on who they voted for? Or not allow employees to own firearms? Point is these people are exercising their rights, just as someone who votes or has a firearm does; do you think employers should be able to restrict that? Or not even restrict, but control those rights?
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Old 06-21-2015, 08:54 PM
 
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Actually, you just proved that the politically correct thought police environment exists, because you deny the ability of a person to speak freely without chilling effects by saying that anyone who defends the right of these people to speak must also agree with the content. It is quite possible to disagree with what these people said but support their right to say it without putting their livelihood at risk. And who gets to decide what is "unacceptable". You have done it, and thus are part of the thought police. You are a fascist.
I deny nothing. Every human society does this.

But that's irrelevant. Either defend these two as victims of PC or be proven irrelevant.


I see you didn't defend those two did you.

Just as I thought.

The whole pc thought police game is utter bs. Every human knows hey there are certain ideas so repudiated within society that if expressed out loud, you will be punished by society. This reality has existed in every human society and has nothing to do with political correctness.
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Old 06-21-2015, 08:56 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Would you then say an employer should be able to fire someone based on who they voted for? Or not allow employees to own firearms? Point is these people are exercising their rights, just as someone who votes or has a firearm does; do you think employers should be able to restrict that? Or not even restrict, but control those rights?
Or, over birth control? Should an employer be able to dictate employees' personal rights that they do not put on display to public?

However, these are cases where an employer's image is affected, of bigotry and insanity. They are looking for their business' best interests (not their own). And in case of the fire fighter, a bigoted volunteer can spell disaster for the fire department, not just potential citizens. When you start to impact lives of others, you deserve to be done away with.
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