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Old 06-25-2015, 06:48 PM
 
Location: Taos NM
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I want to start off by saying I am in full support of pot legalization, and I think Denvers method is pretty good so far.

That being said, I'm seeing a lot of people here claiming pot use has little to no downsides with multitudes of upsides. I disagree.

Inhaling any hot smoke into the lungs is bad including pot. I know it caused me to cough quite badly.

Also the effects on memory, especially short term memory is drastic. I was reading about African history last night, and I can remember what I read before I ate a chocolate with thc, but what I read while high I don't remember at all. Likewise I was having a phone conversation and I for the life of me could not remember what we talked about 30 seconds ago, even though I could converse fine in the present.

And it really disrupts your normal way of thinking. I zoned really into what I was doing, would lose track of what I was doing or where I was going, short term memory deal again, and then snap back to what was happening around me, over and over again. I just couldn't critically think in a quick clear way. And it was really hard to focus on surroundings.

The long term effects are a medical debate that really won't be known until more study has been given to the area. But I can say, at least for me, the short term consequences had as much positive and negative as something like alcohol.
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Old 06-25-2015, 07:11 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Alcohol is far far worse; but then moderation in the use of anything is key. If someone has an addictive nature, it will matter little which drug they use.

I'd rather worry about a person who needs a bag of Doritos and a Slurpy, than the guy who wants to trash the 7-11 because he's drunk. I've never known a head who loses entire days, but this happens to drunks all the time.

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Old 06-25-2015, 07:17 PM
 
Location: Taos NM
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Alcohol is far far worse; but then moderation in the use of anything is key. If someone has an addictive nature, it will matter little which drug they use.

I'd rather worry about a person who needs a bag of Doritos and a Slurpy, than the guy who wants to trash the 7-11 because he's drunk.
Long term alcohol is much worse but in the short term, except for the reckless and violent tendencies of some, I would say they are kind of comparable.

But yes addiction and lack of self control is a serious problem that degrades regardless of drug.
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Old 06-26-2015, 06:43 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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Unfortunately, the debate gets sidetracked by talking about the benefits of marijuana or that it's not as bad as alcohol. Those are irrelevant arguments. The only issue worth debating is this; Should the government have the authority to tell me what I can eat, drink or smoke or tell me who I can have sex with or tell me how I can spend my money. I say it should not have that authority.

If we cede that right to others (government), then there is no end to what others can control in our lives (witness the large soft drinks ban).
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Old 06-26-2015, 06:50 AM
 
Location: Homeless
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Long term alcohol is much worse but in the short term, except for the reckless and violent tendencies of some, I would say they are kind of comparable.

But yes addiction and lack of self control is a serious problem that degrades regardless of drug.

Never met ANYONE addicted to pot ever & I've been smoking it for a very long time now. With that said there are people I have met who are better on it then without it. Just like any other meds they are more level & balanced while they are smoking it. And it doesn't have the said effects that prescriptions do. A lot of people feel like the OP does even though they don't smoke it then see the benefits of having it made legal.
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Old 06-26-2015, 06:56 AM
 
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Never met ANYONE addicted to pot ever & I've been smoking it for a very long time now. With that said there are people I have met who are better on it then without it. Just like any other meds they are more level & balanced while they are smoking it. And it doesn't have the said effects that prescriptions do. A lot of people feel like the OP does even though they don't smoke it then see the benefits of having it made legal.
Maybe not a physical addiction but you are going to tell me you have never met "pot heads" who smoke everyday.

BTW I am in favor of legalization.
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Old 06-26-2015, 07:11 AM
 
Location: On the Beach
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Agree - I favor legalization even though I don't smoke it. But I have known several people who are addicted to pot and admit to it. They buy pot rather than paying their rent or utility bills, go to work high every day and are in a panic if they run out. If that is not addiction what is it? But legislating behavior is a waste of time and money. If someone chooses pot over all other pursuits, that is their choice to make.
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Old 06-26-2015, 07:14 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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Agree - I favor legalization even though I don't smoke it. But I have known several people who are addicted to pot and admit to it. They buy pot rather than paying their rent or utility bills, go to work high every day and are in a panic if they run out. If that is not addiction what is it? But legislating behavior is a waste of time and money. If someone chooses pot over all other pursuits, that is their choice to make.
There is a HUGE difference between something like marijuana that could potentially be mentally addictive and things like alcohol, heroin, oxycodone etc. that are physically addictive-meaning your body will eventually need the substance to function. But really anything can be mentally addicting.

That is why people say marijuana is not addictive-compared to other drugs and alcohol which can cause physical, sick, body aching addiction marijuana is a piece of cake to stop using.

But I agree with you otherwise.
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Old 06-26-2015, 01:10 PM
 
Location: Homeless
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Maybe not a physical addiction but you are going to tell me you have never met "pot heads" who smoke everyday.

BTW I am in favor of legalization.

No not every day that's not to say some don't I only smoke on the weekends or when I know I'm going to have trouble going to sleep.
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Old 06-26-2015, 01:13 PM
 
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Never met ANYONE addicted to pot ever & I've been smoking it for a very long time now. With that said there are people I have met who are better on it then without it. Just like any other meds they are more level & balanced while they are smoking it. And it doesn't have the said effects that prescriptions do. A lot of people feel like the OP does even though they don't smoke it then see the benefits of having it made legal.
There is a psychological addiction, coming from somebody who has known many, many, MANY potheads in my life.

I'm indifferent about pot legalization. The best con I can see is simply the smell of it. It reeks, and I don't want it around me.
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